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Time for Montez?

FlatironsBuff

FlatironsBuff

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I know that the backup QB is always the most popular QB, but in this case don't we all pretty much agree that G-man is not the guy, and Aspay is a good backup, but not good enough to beat out Sefo, so... what now?

Is it time to put in Montez and let him go? My guess is he doesn't know the playbook enough but neither did Sefo when he went in for Wood.

IMO, the answer is no, you need to go with strengths, and last night that was running the ball. That is what I am pissed off the most about, is that it was obvious what was working and what wasn't, and they went away from where they were having success, and stayed solidly in the area where they were struggling. SO while I have questioned what Sefo can and cannot do, right now my issue is more with what plays the OC is calling. I am old school and feel that if a team isn't stopping the run, you ****ing run it down their throat until they can stop it. But the occasional (one in six plays or so) pass keeps the defense guessing a bit.

I thought that Sefo would solidify things and be the guy next year, but now I don't know. On the other hand, while I hated that Sefo slid early and didn't fight for the first down early in the game, whoever said that he was like that all night was crazy. He hammered that Hawaii defensive guy he hit in the second half. And ran and fought. Once again, a blocked punt, fumbled punt return, and the like put him behind and he tries too hard I think. It takes him out of better decisions.

The MWC refs were certainly kind to the MWC team playing last night, and I doubt that if the refs were trying to **** around to run time out at the end of the game on purpose, that they could have done it any better than they did.

Oh....and WTF is up with the team taking it's sweet assed time getting back into formation when time is running out? The ref thing sucked, but we blew a ton of time on the last drive just acting like there was ten minutes left.

I need to sleep now and I am still too pissed to go to bed. Bernardi is on the list as far as I am concerned. That pass blocking is unacceptable for year three. I would say Lingren and Toby too, but unless things change none of them will make it our of this year as Buffs coaches, starting at the top.
 
I would love a QB change but going to Montez will do nothing but destroy him. Our O line is that bad. I hate to think how bad it is going to be when we play someone good.

Keep the RS because it does not matter what QB plays this team is not winning more than 3 games.
 
As much as I would like to see Montez, I think he should redshirt. We need to run a run-first offense, with lots of play action. Don't get too cute with the playcalls. Also, Sefo is just not very good. I realize his pass protection is less than stellar, but that does not excuse his poor leadership and bad attitude when things don't go his way. You often see Sefo yell at his linemen and pout on the bench. A leader doesn't do that.
 
Red shirt Montez. Sell your soul for a serviceable grad or juco transfer next year.
 
My thought is to begin developing the next guy. Teams often give the number 2 guy 10 % of the practice reps, or something like that, in case the starter goes down. Sefo is not progressing, give the number 2 guy 30-40% of the reps. Next time, and there will be a next time, Sefo hits the defender squarely between the numbers for another drive killing pick, put the number two guy in for a series. What could it hurt? It sends a message, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but leaving Sefo in isn't working either. Who knows maybe you find out the number 2 guy can get it done. It isn't like you a jeopardizing a bowl season or anything. BTW, I think we can agree herky Gehrke is not the player you do this with, either Apsay or Montez starts getting the work with a view towards some developmental PT this season.
 
The back up is always the savior. Montez is not ready to play at this level. Let him keep his redshirt.
 
Shldr2Shldr said:
The back up is always the savior. Montez is not ready to play at this level. Let him keep his redshirt.
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Just like Sefo was with respect to Wood. I would prefer Montez keep his RS, but there really is no more point in pretending Sefo is going to suddenly start making jaw dropping plays and great decisions. Maybe it is Apsay, whatever, start working the next guy in for a series or two within the next few weeks, there really is no harm at this point.
 
leftybuff said:
Just like Sefo was with respect to Wood. I would prefer Montez keep his RS, but there really is no more point in pretending Sefo is going to suddenly start making jaw dropping plays and great decisions. Maybe it is Apsay, whatever, start working the next guy in for a series or two within the next few weeks, there really is no harm at this point.
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Not saying we don't try other guys, I was just saying we don't use Montez.
 
Shldr2Shldr said:
Not saying we don't try other guys, I was just saying we don't use Montez.
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I agree with the caveat that if after a few weeks of working him into the rotation he is clearly the best option you burn it. Unlikely, but possible.
 
No, you don't abandon your QB and start a true freshman after 1 game. But, this should be a clear signal to Montez that we don't have a definitive starter coming back next year - he better be ready to compete for the job next year, not in 2017.
 
I have always believed at this level you put the best talent at each position ON THE FIELD. Thats what the great teams do. Doesn't matter if your a walk on all the way to 5th year senior. No free rides.
To much money and exposure involved not to follow that model.
 
Anyone who watched Montez practice could see that while he's got raw skills, he's needs a full year of development. He struggles with accuracy and decision-making against the scrubs. It's not worth harming his confidence and development. Let him develop properly.
 
I didn't read the thread, and for fun, I thought I'd just post blindly.

While Duff is pretty good at identifying a few situational awareness issues exhibited by Sefo from time to time, I don't think he was the problem last night.

Give the man a few seconds to work with. Pass protection was horrible. I don't think a true freshman (who hasn't impressed me yet in practice, by the way) would deal better with the pressure than Sefo did.
 
goldy21 said:
Anyone who watched Montez practice could see that while he's got raw skills, he's needs a full year of development. He struggles with accuracy and decision-making against the scrubs. It's not worth harming his confidence and development. Let him develop properly.
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What evidence is there that we can develop a QB?
 
BuffUp said:
I have always believed at this level you put the best talent at each position ON THE FIELD. Thats what the great teams do. Doesn't matter if your a walk on all the way to 5th year senior. No free rides.
To much money and exposure involved not to follow that model.
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You and I might be in the minority. I've felt that you gotta put your cards on the table early to see who flashes. Letting unknown and potentially lousy players sit in the program and eat resources (scholarships) is a mistake in my mind. Every class should have 30 signees and I'd advocate for a high attrition rate, running off the non producers early.

Especially since macintyre can only recruit WAC players.
 
We don't need a different QB under center, we need the Oline and running backs to step up, kick ass in the running game and make Sefo obsolete.
If the running game can become the dominant part of our offense and Sefo is just a change of pace "keep the D honest" passer he will look like a stud.
 
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NW Buff said:
What evidence is there that we can develop a QB?
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That's the real issue here. When the coaches elected to pass on bringing in an upperclassman to challenge Sefo this year, that said it all. They are planning on Sefo being the guy this year and next year.
 
Rating services often get it wrong, but no true freshman QB who is not a consensus 5* is ever a smart choice to start by an FBS team. Get him adjusted to everything first. It'll take time, but Montez should be considered our emergency savior in 2016 at the earliest.
 
SJBuff said:
We don't need a different QB under center, we need the Oline and running backs to step up, kick ass in the running game and make Sefo obsolete.
If the running game can become the dominant part of our offense and Sefo is just a change of pace "keep the D honest" passer he will look like a stud.
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Although i agree,
This doesn't work when the coach is set on throwing the ball
 
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