There are "mountains" in NH. UNH, however lies at 50' of elevation. I assume those poor wildcats are going to have to change planes in Boston en route to Denver. They won't hang around much longer than the start of the third quarter.
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Tougher 2018 opponent: CSU or New Hampshire?
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There are "mountains" in NH. UNH, however lies at 50' of elevation. I assume those poor wildcats are going to have to change planes in Boston en route to Denver. They won't hang around much longer than the start of the third quarter.
Picked CSU but it was close.
CU is going to beat CSU handily this year. If CSU can't make the 2019 game competitive, it's time to end the series for the time being.
UNH will be competitive for maybe a half but will that be more than what CSU could do this year?
CU is going to beat CSU handily this year. If CSU can't make the 2019 game competitive, it's time to end the series for the time being.
UNH will be competitive for maybe a half but will that be more than what CSU could do this year?
The series is already being ended for the time being.
They won’t change planes in Boston, they’ll fly out of Boston on a direct flight. From UNH to Boston isn’t really much farther than driving from Boulder to DIA.
There's a handshake agreement for 2023 & 2024. CSU doest compete next year, RG might as well forget that handshake agreement.
As I said, the series’ status is currently ended.
You are probably right that the series will be dead soon anyway. It seems like the gap between CU and the other Front Range schools have really widened. If we need warm up games, we can schedule AF, CSU, or Wyoming.
I've always hated this argument. We use it every year (along with "the weather in November"), then Sac State rolls in and gasses us at our field.
I really only think it works the opposite direction; we play on the road at sea level and the extra wind resistance from the denser air slows us down.
Maybe, but I'd rather not get off a 4 1/2 flight the day before playing.
I think time zone difference is the bigger issue. Look up how well teams do when they travel across country. It isn’t good. Huge advantage for home team.
ahoelsken
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Here's the way I'd break this down-the team may see CSU as a bigger deal than the nubs. We've played them for 23 straight seasons (longer than some of our players-our QB included-have been alive), and we haven't seen the Nubs in eight years. Do I expect HCMM will ask McCartney or some of the greats of the past (Alfred or Mike Pritchard for example) to come by practice and fire the kids up about getting to play Nebraska during that week? Sure. There's also a bye after New Hampshire......so I think getting a shot to rub Chip Kelly's nose in it on national tv won't be a part of the equation quite yet. Not sure this will be as easy as Idaho State was in 2016, but I expect this group will be more motivated than last year's was for either Texas State or UNC (which even I looked at as not much more than tune-ups for Washington).
ahoelsken
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I bet they'll come out here Wednesday night or Thursday morning. I think the altitude is noticeable for people who are at 2000 feet......much less sea level.
All the indicators that UNH might have a puncher's chance at a P5 upset aside, I still picked CSU.
They're still FBS vs FCS, which means CSU is going to be deeper. I'm way too lazy to compare rosters, but I would imagine CSU is bigger and stronger top to bottom as well.
This is CSU's Super Bowl. That can never be understated. Even if UNH comes out super psyched to play a P5 opponent, it won't be the same.
The site is huge for this comparison. I feel like Mile High has tended to tilt in favor of us over the last few years in terms of atmosphere, but it's still a boring, antiseptic pro stadium. And obviously there's no altitude advantage.
I'll wager, given that it's an FCS opponent, Folsom won't be rocking like it can be, but it's still the first home game, so the kids will be excited. Then there's the altitude.
They're still FBS vs FCS, which means CSU is going to be deeper. I'm way too lazy to compare rosters, but I would imagine CSU is bigger and stronger top to bottom as well.
This is CSU's Super Bowl. That can never be understated. Even if UNH comes out super psyched to play a P5 opponent, it won't be the same.
The site is huge for this comparison. I feel like Mile High has tended to tilt in favor of us over the last few years in terms of atmosphere, but it's still a boring, antiseptic pro stadium. And obviously there's no altitude advantage.
I'll wager, given that it's an FCS opponent, Folsom won't be rocking like it can be, but it's still the first home game, so the kids will be excited. Then there's the altitude.
**** I'm old.
I don't think they are going to pay for more than one night.
ahoelsken
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Smartass. That's what everybody who plays out here from the east coast does-UMass did it when they played here.
Yep, play in the first 24 hours upon arrival or get there 5 days or more in advance.
8Jah
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Big physical and athletic difference in the trenches between FBS and FCS. On paper a FCS team will never beat an FBS team. So CSU game is harder than NH game.
I think in practice an FCS team only beats an FBS team when all of the following are true:
1) FCS team is highly motivated and plays out of its gourd
2) FBS team is mailing it in, or in the middle of preparing for next week's game
3) FCS team gets a number of early breaks
I think in practice an FCS team only beats an FBS team when all of the following are true:
1) FCS team is highly motivated and plays out of its gourd
2) FBS team is mailing it in, or in the middle of preparing for next week's game
3) FCS team gets a number of early breaks
SuperiorBuff
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North Dakota State Offensive Depth Chart 2017:
They were easily physically big enough to compete with most FBS D-lines.
Two-Deep As of 08.02.2017
LT Collin Conner 6-5 309 Jr, Dillon Radunz 6-6 287 RFr
LG Bryce Messner 6-3 291 Sr, Zack Ziemer 6-4 299 Sr
C Tanner Volson 6-4 301 Jr, Karson Schoening 6-5 297 RFr
RG Austin Kuhnert 6-4 304 Sr, Zach Kubas 6-4 283 RFr
RT Zack Johnson 6-6 312 So, Luke Bacon 6-5 299 Jr
TE Connor Wentz 6-3 250 Sr, Jeff Illies 6-3 235 Sr
QB Easton Stick 6-2 221 Jr, Cole Davis 6-3 215 Sr
FB Brock Robbins 6-1 246 So, Garrett Malstrom 6-0 250 So
RB Lance Dunn 5-9 211, Bruce Anderson 5-11 216 Jr
WR RJ Urzendowski 6-0 200 Sr, Dallas Freeman 6-1 197 Jr
WR Darrius Shepherd 5-11 186 Jr, Dimitri Williams 5-11 191 Jr
Depth as of 08.02.2017
OC
OG Josh Howlesos 6-5 293 RFr, Jack Albrecht 6-5- 278 RFr, Ben Hecht 6-5 277 RFr
OT Cordell Volson 6-6 299 RFr, Erik Olson 6-5 277 Sr
TE Ben Ellefson 6-3 250 So, Nate Jensen 6-6 245 Jr, Matt Anderson 6-4 247 So
QB Henry Van Dellen 6-4 226 RFr, Noah Sanders 6-2 210 So
FB Zak Kuntz 6-2 249 RFr
RB Adam Cofield 5-11 205, Demaris Purifoy 6-1 197 So, Ty Brooks 5-9 180 So
WR Cordell Pimienta 6-0 177 So, Desmond Cain 5-10 185 Jr, Daniel Polansky 6-0 190 Sr, Victor Kizewski 6-0 192 RFr, Sean Engel 6-5 208 RFr, Trevor Heit 5-9 177 RFr, Cole Jacob 6-1 193 RFr
True Freshmen
OC Zach Willis 6-4, 305
OG Nash Jensen 6-4 349
OT
TE Austin Avery 6-3 241, Costner Ching 6-3 249, Cody Mauch 6-4 234, Noah Gindorff 6-6 249, Josh Babicz 6-6 225 Fr
QB Henry Van Dellen 6-4 226 RFr, Holden Hotchkiss 6-3 191 Fr, Noah Sanders 6-2 210 So
FB Zak Kuntz 6-2 249 RFr
RB Adam Cofield 5-11 205, Demaris Purifoy 6-1 197 So, Ty Brooks 5-9 180 So, Seth Wilson 5-10 189 Fr
WR Christian Watson 6-3 186, Andy Voyen 6-2 196, Peter Isais 5-11 170, Carson Yaggie 6-2 196, Brant Bohmert 5-11 179
8Jah
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I am looking out my window right now and see a neighbor waddling to his car that that must be 6-4 and close to four bills. In an hours walk down the mall, out of the mass of people, I could gather a small group of guys whose height and weight would look impressive on a NCAA depth chart, but none of them could have ever played D1 football. Not trying to disrespect NDSU linemen - they are three or four notches above the big guys you could pull off the street...and they are the best linemen by far in all the FCS. My point is that being heavy doesn't tell you much. What makes FBS linemen different is that they are so athletic for being as big as they are and they are more physical than even their size would indicate. You could see the same big jump between the NFL second stringers and FBS starters.
SuperiorBuff
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And I believe that the best FCS teams can compete with many FBS teams at the line positions. I don't buy your argument.
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8Jah
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Isn't that a tautology?
SuperiorBuff
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typo edited