You said that about their OL before the season. Then they proceeded to run down our throats
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You said that about their OL before the season. Then they proceeded to run down our throats
The elephant in the room
Except that he played against the same Hawaii team that Sefo struggled against and rolled.
I would love to see him play against UW or UCLA or ASU
Do you think he'd turn the ball over and lose? Because that's what Sefo did.
Look, I'm as much a Buff fan as you and I want to believe the same thing you want to believe. The problem is that I'm constricted by this niggling thing called reality.
I bet he wouldn't do **** against those defenses
Mr. Babar
I have no elephant books
Spot on. CU has developed a losing culture and we are seeing signs of that turning around. HCMM will continue to make progress, but overcoming that losing culture is priority number one. That's why we have heard all the talk about "finishing" and "complete games". The team has to figure out how to eliminate mental lapses.
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FLounder
Think Positive and life will be Positive.
QOTD
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Problem is the coach is also responsible for recruiting, you can't separate the two.
FLounder
Think Positive and life will be Positive.
Besides the class ranking, what exactly is wrong with our recruits?
Lots of improvement, and things have grinded forward. I am all in with this program in terms of time, money, and heart.
However.... It is easy to observe..... We cannot continue to hand the ball to the other team, resulting in scores, ranking us 112th in D 1, ..... And expect to win a Pac 12 game.
We will beat a PAC 12 team, when we are in the plus category on turnovers. Look forward to that day. Go Buffs!
However.... It is easy to observe..... We cannot continue to hand the ball to the other team, resulting in scores, ranking us 112th in D 1, ..... And expect to win a Pac 12 game.
We will beat a PAC 12 team, when we are in the plus category on turnovers. Look forward to that day. Go Buffs!
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Seriously?
Mr. Babar
I have no elephant books
We are building a foundation. It isn't realistic to expect huge pickups right now. Think last years class is an example of what to expect this year. Majority of projects with a couple guys who can step in right away (ala Fields). We will have to wait and see how well they evaluate talent.
It'd be awesome to be competing with USC for recruits, but you have to compete on the field first.
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White_Rabbit
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It'd be awesomer to be competing with any P12 school in recruiting, but that just isn't realistic at this time.
USC, huh? What about Oregon State? Or Udub? Or WSU? Or Arizona? Or Utah? Take USC, Oregon and Stanford out of that discussion for now. No one is suggesting we can compete with them. NOBODY.
FLounder
Think Positive and life will be Positive.
This argument is almost as old as DBT.
Actually, it makes sense that the secondary has a hard time getting INTs. They're not used to a QB who can make more than one read and actually look off a defense.
It would change perception of all these close losses to win one at the end. Utah is good, much better than we are, but if we can catch some breaks at home, we could sneak a victory to end the season.
Their defense is as good as any in the PAC 12, but a poor offense (They have not scored more than 30 points against P5 competition this year) means the chance for a tight, one score game that could go either.
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Mr. Babar
I have no elephant books
Was just making a point that it'd be great if we were recruiting better. That said, you can grow a program by developing guys. I trust HCMM's evaluation more than Rivals, Scout, etc when it comes to 2*/3* players. No question the 4*/5* are generally great players (hence the USC reference) despite the fact that many of our 4*/5* guys have washed out or under-performed in the past decade.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
As long as people keep making ridiculous statements like "we can't expect to be competing with USC", or "which 4* or 5* player is going to want to come here? " then they need to be reminded.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
I disagree, I don't believe you can effectively grow a program with classes in the 80s, not in this conference. Mac seems like he can coach, but there are a lot of goods coaches in this conference.
Mr. Babar
I have no elephant books
LMAO. Thanks for the reminder. Guess I didn't know that we weren't pursuing all the 4*/5* guys wanting to come to CU. No question we should be competing with USC right now - I mean what kid in SoCal wouldn't want to go to CU when we've been a laughing stock for the last five years.
FLounder
Think Positive and life will be Positive.
I know we should be recruiting top-25. And we will. But at the current moment in time, it's not smart to take a large amount of risks, we need upperclassmen in the worst way.
I can buy into the foundation thing. In fact, I think it's probably the only way we dig out of the hole we're in. Fans, almost by definition, are an impatient lot. We want results and we want them now. That ship sailed when we kept Hawkins an extra year and then doubled down on stupid with the Embree hire. The only way out of this is to build slowly.
That said, it would be refreshing to get a few recruiting wins. This class is shaping up to have 2-3 impact players and a lot of role players. That isn't a recipe for long term success. Basically, it means we need about 8 of the "role players" - guys like Sewall and Tuiloma - to be something more than the experts predict. That can happen with 2-3 players per class, but depending on it for 8 players is not realistic. There's a glaring need for a new coach on special teams. There will be a lot of very solid assistant coaches who can recruit available in another month or so. We need to make that change.
That said, it would be refreshing to get a few recruiting wins. This class is shaping up to have 2-3 impact players and a lot of role players. That isn't a recipe for long term success. Basically, it means we need about 8 of the "role players" - guys like Sewall and Tuiloma - to be something more than the experts predict. That can happen with 2-3 players per class, but depending on it for 8 players is not realistic. There's a glaring need for a new coach on special teams. There will be a lot of very solid assistant coaches who can recruit available in another month or so. We need to make that change.
fatbuff
Member
Hawkins was the winningest coach in D1 when we hired him. Enough ****ing excuses. There is no reason that we cant recruit against other P5 teams. Not elite teams, but P5 teams.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
I don't think you're getting it. NO ONE on this board is suggesting we should be competing with USC for recruits or pulling in 4* and 5* players, no one. You're arguing with no one.
Who's saying we need to take a bunch of risks? And you're suggesting only highly ranked kids are risks - Isaac Miller was a risk, Hasselbach was a risk, Connor Center was a risk, Jay McIntyre was a risk.