@Goose's acid reflux just kicked up a few notches.
Another thing, with adding the 4 corner schools Vegas could be in play to host the conference tourney from time to time.
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What the Big 12 Means To Hoops
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@Goose's acid reflux just kicked up a few notches.
Another thing, with adding the 4 corner schools Vegas could be in play to host the conference tourney from time to time.
One thing I wasn't able to appreciate in 2003, 2004, and 2006 was the metric ton of political capital Texas had to spend to move the conference tournament from KC to Dallas.
KU and ISU are not letting that happen again.
We'll see. UofA may have some sway. Not to mention I would think Vegas is more attractive than Dallas for members not from the Great Plains. But since I'm usually wrong. I actually like Kansas City, just doesn't have to be there every year.
Dallas and Denver are the easiest flights for fans.
Why not Denver? We're kind of in the middle.
Dallas, Kansas City, Denver, Phoenix/Vegas could be a nice rotation.
But the altitude! /Old-Big-8 Whiners
Rumblin is probably right, it'd just be nice to see the location rotate every year.
I was thinking it. I just didn’t want to say it.Even Houston and Orlando. I'll expect some hate for this post.
I wrote an email to both President Saliman and Rick George following the announcement that we were moving to the Big12. In my email to RG, I specifically mentioned my concern about support for the BB programs and that I hope that the AD can use the new funds and exposure to boost booth programs. I would recommend all those that have some level of concern to do the same. May not make a difference but it doesn't hurt to be a squeaky wheel.
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Pretty sure he actually printed your email so that he could wipe his ass with it.
How many votes do they get?
50% + 1
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Tad gets it. Said his job has become a lot tougher.....but grinned in a "You bet your ass I'm excited about this" kind of way."
I'd kill to referee in this new Big 12. Holy ****.
Big 12 currently has 18 conference games. With 16 teams, that means 15 of those games would be single robin while three would be double robin. If we go to 18 teams like Gonzaga and UConn as basketball only members, that would be just one double robin. That is what excites me about super conferences despite concerns about what it does to the student athletes (just pay them more!).
Yeah probably. Its gonna be a whole lotta fun poking at the beakers every chance I get though.
Texas Hoops has always been an interesting one for me. They get treated like a fringe blue blood, but I'm not sure why? Sure, a bunch of tournament wins in the 90s and early aughts, but one modern final four and no national championships. Hell, other campuses in their system have a natty, and they don't.
Their 21st Century profile is more or less Oregon. I mean, who the hell cares about Texas basketball?
Their 21st Century profile is more or less Oregon. I mean, who the hell cares about Texas basketball?
BlackNGold
Club Member
I read this thread and wonder, what are some of the fans' expectations for MBB. I always chuckle when some fans claim we are now a basketball school. CU has been more competitive in MBB in the past decade but they are aways from calling themselves a BB School. I don't fully understand the concern with going to the Big 12. This is Div 1 basketball and you have to compete whatever conference you play. CU's challenge is and always has been recruiting. We are not located in a BB hotbed so we have to out recruit other schools. Nor our we a blue blood program that players grow up wanting to play for.
I think CU is on the right track but we have to consistently make the NCAA tourney - like at an +50% rate to become a primary destination school for top recruits. Last few recruiting classes have been encouraging but it has to translate to a better than average performance on the Court. The Big 12 make help as I think the conference is going to promote basketball better.
I think CU is on the right track but we have to consistently make the NCAA tourney - like at an +50% rate to become a primary destination school for top recruits. Last few recruiting classes have been encouraging but it has to translate to a better than average performance on the Court. The Big 12 make help as I think the conference is going to promote basketball better.
When I look at CU basketball I don't see a lot of built-in advantages. If I'm a top basketball recruit the only reason I want to come to Colorado is to play for Tad and his staff and that's because Tad spent years to build up a reputation of putting kids in the league, winning more games than the recruiting rankings would predict, establishing connections with NBA scouts, and cementing himself as a fixture in USA basketball. First let's hope that Tad stays for another decade. In the likely event that Tad decides retirement sounds nice let's hope Tad has thought through his succession plan.
Gonzaga has about as many built in advantages, probably less. I'm not expecting CU to be on the Zags level, I just don't buy the excuse anymore. If the school committed to buildiing a program that's consistently ranked and making the Dance most years it could absolutely happen, and I guarantee we'd have some of the better attendance numbers in country as well.
Yormark: Zags, UConn talks 'didn't work out'
The Big 12 will not add Gonzaga and UConn, two basketball powerhouses, after initial conversations about the potential moves, commissioner Brett Yormark said.
The bold is exactly why I'm nervous.
What @Goose said. Gonzaga has coach Few who is even more of a unicorn than Tad. Also, Gonzaga and Big East schools are not really comparable because they don't have football programs. Even though that means less money overall for the athletic programs, those schools pour all their attention and resources into basketball.
HouClone
New Member
Kansas City does a great job hosting. They have been doing it for years, and it's by far the best of the conference tournaments in terms of buzz and attendance. The whole city makes the Big 12 the event. I don't think it will be like that anyplace else. The Big 12 tried outside Kansas City before, Tulsa, but it wasn't the same. Vegas has other stuff going on, but it is a destination place so it would work from time to time. Plus, it would placate the new additions, particularly Arizona.
Sorry, but KC won't hold a candle to Vegas. The options outside of basketball in KC are hot garbage, and not centrally located with the arena.
Will make an "absolute must attend every year" to a "maybe in years where we are favored to make it past round 2"
I agree with this. Under the new team structure the Big 12 absolutely HAS TO rotate the conference tournament. KU can't get home games every fricken year. Denver, KC, Orlando, Dallas, and Phoenix would be a nice rotation.