Get ALL in-state OL and win with a strong running game and defense. Problem is, our best recruiter is the WR coach and our DL pipeline is MS JUCOs
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What things can CU do to raise its football prestige?
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Although it’s probably not too comparable, being that I’m already a huge Buffs fans, I think making a push for the Latin Americans, Hispanics, and Chicano populations could be very rewarding. My father is from Mexico and those Vamos shirts that Nik posted above were an instant purchase for us when we saw them. I can imagine for families that have no allegiance to a university, seeing one near you that’s making an effort to reach out means something especially if you’re a Hispanic family where you go with your barrio. You sway a few families to follow the Buffs and the snowball starts rolling.
We need a sugar daddy (or momma). It would make all these other suggestions much more attainable. Make it so.
Boulder tattoo parlors would also rejoice.
Pray for my crypto bags to moon and you’ll get a sugar daddy for the buffs.
Tony Meatballs
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Of course, every coach is a risk. Flight risk, Fail risk, culture risk but even most of these "have been" coaches at least get to bowl games and generate excitement about the program. What have we done over the last 13-14 years? 2 bowl games? Until Tucker wins and I really hope he does, he has as much credibility as all of the last 14 years of coaches we have had. I trust Rick George, met him, love him but I am not sure he got his first choice.
Now, That is just like my opinion man on what it would take for this program to gain the prestige but again this is a message board that does not mean sh*t from shynola.
Tony Meatballs
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What?
wyomingBUFF
Well-Known Member
Some good ideas in here. I like the tailgating improvements and Hispanic outreach. Assistant coach salary pool is another necessary building block
From my perspective, CU needs to get more serious about Marketing and Communications. I think we are taking some steps in this direction with emphasis on social media and the positive approach of Coach Tucker, but there is a ton of room for improvement.
Build a stronger brand that attracts more fans and recruits. The recruiting bump helps on the field success.
1) CU has had a historically bad relationship with the media. Think: recruiting "scandal", recent NYtimes stuff with regents, lack of coverage, etc. A focal point of this brand strategy will need to be attracting top talent to our SID/PR team. We could use leadership that embraces the current media landscape. CU needs to be getting more media placement, developing the stories of its players and coaches. I think about Les Miles here. Glad we went with HCMT, but Les will be getting 20x more coverage, even if just stories about what type of grass he chews at KU. Think about all of the amazing aspects of our program, tradition, and location- they are underutilized.
2) #1 is made a lot easier by winning, as we all know.
3) #1 is also made a lot easier with a legitimate conference TV network and distribution
Bottom line is, I want to see CU stories all over College Gameday, in the national media, in the local media. I want to see CU gear more commonplace around the country. More than I want to see it, the recruits want to see it. A crafty PR team could go a long way. To me, it's not just about raising the prestige of the program but also about raising general awareness and excitement. Recruiting success, ticket sales, partnerships, AD revenue, salary pools, and on the field success all flow from here.
From my perspective, CU needs to get more serious about Marketing and Communications. I think we are taking some steps in this direction with emphasis on social media and the positive approach of Coach Tucker, but there is a ton of room for improvement.
Build a stronger brand that attracts more fans and recruits. The recruiting bump helps on the field success.
1) CU has had a historically bad relationship with the media. Think: recruiting "scandal", recent NYtimes stuff with regents, lack of coverage, etc. A focal point of this brand strategy will need to be attracting top talent to our SID/PR team. We could use leadership that embraces the current media landscape. CU needs to be getting more media placement, developing the stories of its players and coaches. I think about Les Miles here. Glad we went with HCMT, but Les will be getting 20x more coverage, even if just stories about what type of grass he chews at KU. Think about all of the amazing aspects of our program, tradition, and location- they are underutilized.
2) #1 is made a lot easier by winning, as we all know.
3) #1 is also made a lot easier with a legitimate conference TV network and distribution
Bottom line is, I want to see CU stories all over College Gameday, in the national media, in the local media. I want to see CU gear more commonplace around the country. More than I want to see it, the recruits want to see it. A crafty PR team could go a long way. To me, it's not just about raising the prestige of the program but also about raising general awareness and excitement. Recruiting success, ticket sales, partnerships, AD revenue, salary pools, and on the field success all flow from here.
ahoelsken
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Huge difference between the first year for this staff and the first year of the FHCMM era-MM had nothing when he got here, and this program was the at the bottom of the power 5. Now? Not so much. This staff needs to win and do so quickly.
Tucker is quite different from each of the previous three head coaching hires. Very few similarities, if any.
Tony Meatballs
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I will take one from your playbook and just say: Disagree
So you think Tucker is similar to Hawkins, Embree, and MacIntyre? In what ways? Maybe you can enlighten me because I do not see them.
Tony Meatballs
Well-Known Member
AMEN!!!
So we are basically back to where we were in Dan Hawkins' first season?
A guy who has coached under Nick Saban (three times), Jim Tressel, and Kirby Smart, winning a National Championship as an AC and coaching in another at UGA as the Defensive Coordinator, not to mention having spent almost 10 years in the NFL as a Defensive Coordinator, has the same credibility as Mike MacIntyre, Jon Embree and Dan Hawkins?
Hawkins and MM had far better coaching resumes than Embree had. Each had been a head football coach before and had some success. Hawkins turned out to be a fraud, and MM’s ceiling was at the G5 level. MT has a more complete resume, particularly at the P5 level. But let’s not forget this is his first try as a full time head coach. It’s the first staff he’s ever put together. There will be a learning curve with him.
DrunkRalphie
Well-Known Member
12-0
Always a learning curve, but I trust his plan a lot more than his predecessors.
There were serious red flags (i.e, not minor issues) early on with the other guys which hopefully will not pop up with Tucker.
Agreed. Only real ?? right now are around DL and RB recruiting, and it's really DL that concern me most.
This may have already been mentioned but I didn't have time to read through the whole thread...
Replace two of our Regents with representatives who actually envision a prestigious football program and top-notch facilities and the value they bring as a marketing tool for the entire university system...in perpetuity.
That would be a good start from my perspective.
Replace two of our Regents with representatives who actually envision a prestigious football program and top-notch facilities and the value they bring as a marketing tool for the entire university system...in perpetuity.
That would be a good start from my perspective.
I have to believe RG has assured him that while the AC salary pool will never be what he was around at Bama and UGA, it would eventually get to a very competitive level to retain and hire quality P5 coaches, along with continue building the support staff. The money that will eventually come off the books when MM is fully paid out will hopefully be allocated to that salary pool, and as new donations and increased revenue from winning start coming in, that pool will continue to get bigger.
ahoelsken
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I don't see the this team being the train wreck that that one was-This one has problem areas, but there's a ton more talent coming back TY (especially at the offensive skill positions) and this coaching staff is a lot better than anything we've seen here since Barnett-Johnson is the first OC in almost 30 years (went back and looked at this when he got hired) who had previous experience as an OC in a major conference prior to coming here. Wasn't as wild about Summers, but he's been a head coach, and I expect Mel Tucker to be fairly hands-on with the defense this year. Kaplovic is probably my favorite assistant coach hire, and he's a huge upgrade over Klayton Adams. I think Kwahn Drake is going to be a good coach, but Jimmy Brumbaugh is an upgrade over him right now too. Pupunu too-we're using the TE in this offense, and I think we're seeing results from him already in terms of recruiting Hawaii.
Worst case scenario is another 5-7 IMO-We sweep the OOC, and I look at Tucker with CU in a similar manner to Vic Fangio with the Broncos.....FHCMM was never as out of his league during his time at CU as VJ was with the Broncos his last two years, but Mel Tucker is a hell of a football coach in my opinion. Nick Saban doesn't hire you three different times if you're not. Main point being-I think upgrades in coaching for both teams will lead to a win or two we might not see coming right now. Hell, I'll call one for CU now-I think we're going to beat USC for the first time in program history when they come here on that Friday night in October.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
https://durangoherald.com/articles/269858
We only owe MM another $3m, and I think we don't have much (if anything) we owe the assistants of his who weren't retained right?
Agreed. Hopefully the big donor that is about to pop this fall will result in some of that money being earmarked for assistant salaries.
Decided to pull a Hokie instead of starting a new thread.
With the current move and the Coach Prime Effect, there may very well be the revenue and the booster excitement to drive fundraising (possibly even attracting a stadium sponsor to invest in the stadium)... making it so CU could finally move on the West Side/ Balch project.
Do you want to see this happen soon or would you wait?
What changes would you like to see to 100 year old Folsom Stadium?
Do you think for CU's prestige (this thread's title) it would make sense to go to 64k+ capacity to have the largest capacity in the Big 12 (unless UDub joins, which is at 70k)?
With the current move and the Coach Prime Effect, there may very well be the revenue and the booster excitement to drive fundraising (possibly even attracting a stadium sponsor to invest in the stadium)... making it so CU could finally move on the West Side/ Balch project.
Do you want to see this happen soon or would you wait?
What changes would you like to see to 100 year old Folsom Stadium?
Do you think for CU's prestige (this thread's title) it would make sense to go to 64k+ capacity to have the largest capacity in the Big 12 (unless UDub joins, which is at 70k)?
I think stadium expansion has to wait until CU gets back to consistently making bowl games or better and Prime signs an extension. All money and resources flowing into this program right now have to be directed toward recruiting, staff, scouting, and the on field product because that is the only missing piece from taking this program from a hype machine to a true national giant.
Once they prove that football excellence is here to stay and they can keep selling out season tickets and single games, yes, I'd say expand to 65k+ and completely renovate Balch and the entire West side. I would enclose the NW side and add a second level.
Of course a complete renovation of the restrooms and more concession areas.
Gold leaf in the troughs
My suggestion is to do something no other stadium has done, or would ever dream to do.
Every stadium has a facilities issue. It is the bathroom. I say dedicate every existing one to the ladies, and build one giant facility for men that begins at section 104 and wraps all the around the horseshoe to 119 and place in it one continuous horseshoe trough, the largest and most unique of its kind in the world.
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