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Which Pac-12 (-3) team would you most want to join the Big 12[10] (-2+4+1)?
- Thread starter Buffnik
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Oregon will join. Washington and Arizona likely too.
Utah, Cal, Stanford, Arizona State, Oregon State, Washington State…… thanks for playing and better luck next time losers
Utah, Cal, Stanford, Arizona State, Oregon State, Washington State…… thanks for playing and better luck next time losers
Ducks, Dogs, Utes. Those three additions would make the B12 (or whatever it will be called) a decent conference. Otherwise, it's barely a power conference at all.
too many integers
chitownbuff
Club Member
Oregon, Washington, and Arizona. Maximize the short-term with so many long-term variables.
I believe if the B12 gets Oregon, it's game over for the P12-4.
Hopefully, Fox comes around and says its cool to add Arizona and Washington at equal revenue shares in short order.
A B12+4 is wildly more palatable than a B12+1, but honestly, as long as we have our seat at the table, I'm down for whatever comes next.
Hopefully, Fox comes around and says its cool to add Arizona and Washington at equal revenue shares in short order.
A B12+4 is wildly more palatable than a B12+1, but honestly, as long as we have our seat at the table, I'm down for whatever comes next.
Oregon because then it almost assuredly kills the Pac and eliminates the ACC trying to cobble together an expanded conference.
Hopefully it's Oregon, Washington and Arizona, as that feels like a respectable football conference top to bottom and the marquee MBB conference.
Hopefully it's Oregon, Washington and Arizona, as that feels like a respectable football conference top to bottom and the marquee MBB conference.
How will Oregon counter? By throwing Uncle Phil's sweatshop money around, that's how.
The problem for Oregon is that their football brand is definitely worth adding, but it's not going to increase the media deal payouts. Maybe Oregon's card is to strike some kind of exclusive Nike deal with the conference for the next 6 years.
I tend to think that Paul Finebaum has good connections and knows the landscape around the country... I just listened to him say that the PAC-12 won't get even close to a media deal that would keep all of their members... He says that it is only a matter of time that at least 1, if not 3 jump ship because they HAVE to.
We are down to 4 major conferences.
SerenityBuff
Well-Known Member
If they're stopping at 14 for now, adding Arizona would make this a solid conference. Strong hoops programs with several football programs on the rise.
I am SURE that all of those schools are thinking about their best options. They are not just sitting around waiting for a large P11 media deal that is NOT coming.
Stupid take
You go for what gives you the best conference. With one, that is Oregon or Washington. If three more, then Oregon, Washington, and Arizona.
I think adding those three could potentially even give you a chance for a P3 structure down the road with the Big 12 adding some Schools from the ACC
I think adding those three could potentially even give you a chance for a P3 structure down the road with the Big 12 adding some Schools from the ACC
The most likely is Arizona.
If Udub and Oregon wanna come along, that would be a really good conference.
If Udub and Oregon wanna come along, that would be a really good conference.
Arizona should jump tonight, they fit nicely in the geography and the Basketball power would be huge, and let's be honest, the culture fits them
Oregon is next and of course they would come with Washington to round out a pretty damn nice 16 team league
I honestly do not care about any other program at all. Yeah, Utah has done a lot right, but they have actually never really driven or become a national brand, despite being good.
Oregon is next and of course they would come with Washington to round out a pretty damn nice 16 team league
I honestly do not care about any other program at all. Yeah, Utah has done a lot right, but they have actually never really driven or become a national brand, despite being good.
He’s not dead.
Long game-wise, I hope none of the current P-12 teams.
A) I hope UO and UDub rot in hell, as well as Utah.
2) We all know the B12 is going to crumble at some point. I feel like if CU is the top dog of the Conf when that happens, they will be a lot more appealing to be taken by P2 confs (B1G or SEC).
d) I feel like we have a better shot at point 2 without UO, UDub, or UU…esp all of them.
iv) and if we don’t get absorbed, I’d still rather watch CU go out on top with better shots at the Conf championships and CFP.
My $.02
A) I hope UO and UDub rot in hell, as well as Utah.
2) We all know the B12 is going to crumble at some point. I feel like if CU is the top dog of the Conf when that happens, they will be a lot more appealing to be taken by P2 confs (B1G or SEC).
d) I feel like we have a better shot at point 2 without UO, UDub, or UU…esp all of them.
iv) and if we don’t get absorbed, I’d still rather watch CU go out on top with better shots at the Conf championships and CFP.
My $.02
I don't believe the Big 12 eventually collapses.
I do believe that there is room (maybe necessity) in the market for about 60 teams in the top tier of football.
I also believe that basketball will become increasingly significant and we'll start seeing more schools (and conferences) built around the Villanova and VCU models of competing at the highest level of basketball wile having football as a lower division, lower cost sport (if they have it at all).
On that note, it wouldn't shock me if Cal and Stanford eventually became the leaders of a conference that could poach 5 likeminded AAU members from the Big West with UC Davis, UC San Diego, UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine, and UC Riverside. You've also got UC Santa Cruz and Caltech in AAU playing D3 and could elevate. Heck, Cal & Stanford could form that CA Ivy and do what BYU did for a decade in football if it wanted.
I do believe that there is room (maybe necessity) in the market for about 60 teams in the top tier of football.
I also believe that basketball will become increasingly significant and we'll start seeing more schools (and conferences) built around the Villanova and VCU models of competing at the highest level of basketball wile having football as a lower division, lower cost sport (if they have it at all).
On that note, it wouldn't shock me if Cal and Stanford eventually became the leaders of a conference that could poach 5 likeminded AAU members from the Big West with UC Davis, UC San Diego, UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine, and UC Riverside. You've also got UC Santa Cruz and Caltech in AAU playing D3 and could elevate. Heck, Cal & Stanford could form that CA Ivy and do what BYU did for a decade in football if it wanted.
Enlighten me, Obi-Wan.
Big Jim
WTF?
B12 won’t collapse. Outside of CU and maybe TCU the teams in the conference are as high up the ladder as they will ever be.
Yes. I feel like CU just got relegated down a league. Too bad the PAC is collapsing.