Exactly. No one on this list is helping us now. I can’t imagine who would want them. Maybe Owen will be a serviceable QB. If he becomes the starter he’s not leaving. Yet.
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Who do expect to transfer after the season? (Can't say everyone)
- Thread starter Da Lama
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There were hundreds of kids last year in the portal from P5 programs who didn't end up at P5 programs. Can most of those kids be worse than what we currently have.
Another big issue. Similar to in the JE era this team has built a culture of losing. Players expect to lose, play like they are going to lose, and aren't much bothered by individual losses since they expected to lose going in.
That attitude can change when a kid goes elsewhere into a winning culture, kids can bring a winning culture in with them but it is very, very hard to change that culture with the kids who are already on the team and who have already bought into it.
Beyond the talent issue to be successful a new coaching staff is going to have to change the culture to one of winning.
It may very well be that the bigger the roster turnover the more likely that is to happen.
Formerly_Medford
Well-Known Member
Are you saying Deion Smith is slow? There's a lot of issues with the team, but lol at him being slow. Also, Hankerson is better than Ven , so why don't you list him?
Formerly_Medford
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This is dumb, too. Bad as we might be, the majority of the guys he played with or against won't be playing at P5 schools or be playing college ball at all.
I don't know if Adam made this free, but it explains things very well.
If people can't read it, I or someone else can summarize.
Substantial challenge CU faces with bringing in transfers
Substantial challenge CU faces with bringing in transfers
247sports.com
PaywallI don't know if Adam made this free, but it explains things very well.
If people can't read it, I or someone else can summarize.
Substantial challenge CU faces with bringing in transfers
Substantial challenge CU faces with bringing in transfers
Ok.
basically, the NCAA has that "progress to graduation" requirement where a certain percentage has to have been achieved each of the 5 years on the eligibility clock.
CU does not have a liberal arts or general studies major, making it difficult to transfer all credits as progress toward a degree.
Further, a student's final 48 credit hours earned have to be at CU in order to qualify for a CU degree.
Taken together, it means that UCLA or Cal can get just about any transfer they want admitted. CU is pretty much unable to admit anyone beyond his 2nd year unless as a post-grad.
Often, to get a guy on the edge (like JT Shrout), the player has to be willing to take extra coursework at CU before he can join and participate. Those transfers have to be willing to make significant extra effort to become a Buff above what they would have to do to become a Bruin or Bear despite those being much higher rated universities.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Yeah but when players leave UCLA or Cal and are looking for a job, what do they say in an interview when they’re asked which school they took their last 48 credit hours? Because an employer will totally ask them.
That's an absolute deal breaker in the modern era of college football. A program operating with a one-way check valve on transfers simply cannot be successful in the open transfer era. Either that changes or we're wasting our time here.
At least we know that no one is going to transfer or decommit because KD. No one has any loyalty for him like we we've seen with other coaches who have left or even fired at other universities. So the new coach will be able to choose who he wants to keep. That is assuming we fire KD. If we don't, that is when the mass exodus occurs.
No, which is quite odd given Offerdahl has seen the field. Good kid, good story but if/when he lines up against someone other than our sh!tty defense or an opponent's 4th string, he's going to get Stone Cold Stunned into oblivion.
Yes. He's mid. He looks fast when compared to his teammates. Dude didn't exactly lap any othe AFAs G5 "track stars" or UM's lumbering Swedes and midwest corn feds.
THIS is what you took away from that entire post?
Formerly_Medford
Well-Known Member
Yeah because i have a pet peeve about hyperbole. Lol.
I had a diagram about it, but I lost it...
BuffLuke80
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Oh well, no biggie. I just know I haven't seen him.
mdbuff97
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This is my hope as well. 90% chance KD isn’t the coach next year. Fire now, hire now (soon). Let that coach re-recruit the players he wants to keep; starting mining the transfer portal day 1 for immediate talent.
That’s a Bronco M / Herman / Mullen hire. They’re available NOW. Odds? Doubtful.
Probably looking at a “hot” OC/DC from B10 or SEC. Then the hope is he pulls P5 players from current school to CU; recruits the guys he missed with the portal, offering immediate playing time.
It’s a pipe dream, but it’s my pipe dream. We’ll settle on a G5 or pure reclamation project hoping for a miracle.
:^(
Formerly_Medford
Well-Known Member
Just don't use hyperbolic statements and we're good.
Also I don't know if it is still as bad as it was but CU admissions is known for being stupid picky about the credits they accept from other schools.
Many years back my brother transferred in to UCD to complete his bachelors. He submitted a transcript with over 120 credits on it (accumulated in 3 years with a GPA that had him on the Dean's list.) UCD came back and told him they were accepting less than 50 of those credits. He with a substantial amount of work appealed and got it back to over 90 credits accepted.
Stupid thing was that virtually all the classes had equivalents in the CU system, often using an almost identical syllabus and often the same text. That schools who's academics didn't meet the "standards" of the CU system? The US Air Force Academy. He continued on to get graduate degrees from DU and Mines.
The transfer rules are nothing but a money grab by CU. If it wasn't for state rules, they probably wouldn't accept most credits from any of the jucos in Colorado.
Mr. Babar
I have no elephant books
This is really surprising. The university is so supportive of the program normally, I’m shocked they wouldn’t amend this requirement.
BuffLuke80
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Did it say what?
I do not believe it’s something serious, but it was reported he was nursing nagging injuries during camp and into the season. Unless he practices and knows his blocking assignments, Hagan isn’t sending him out there. As far as his capabilities, he is simply an unknown at this point.