Canada_BUFF
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Barnett did what he did in a much weaker big 12 north. Back then, Mizzou and Kansas were gimme wins. In fact the Big 12 wasnt as dominant from top to bottom as it is now.
Let me be clear that I am happy with Hawk and I think he's the right guy for the job, although he has to go produce wins now.
All I'm saying is that based on their respective on-field performance at CU, Barnett seemed to be better at getting the maximum effort out of his players. That doesn't mean I want him back. I don't. That ship has sailed.
Barnett surrounded himself with better coaches.
Hawk surrounds himself with good recruiters, and unproven coaches.
So basically, I am not making a decision.
Vince Okruch and Shawn Watson - really?
On My Name is Earl last night, Randy was talking about breeding weiner dogs with a cat to get weiner cats.Would you rather....be a dog? or a cat?
I want an honest answer
I WAS a big GB supporter.
I am now a big Hawk supporter.
You have a lot in common with a jock strap. They provide quite a bit of support too.
BTW I agree with you. :gobuffs:
If you could be any animal, what would it be?
Dang straight!!!!!! :woot:Buffalo you idot!!!!! :smile2:
The " stop trying to win and be a winner" stuff is great as is the "whole package' stuff but the bottom line is wins and getting this program where he said he would take it.
And I think he will. He has done so at every level he has coached at, but to come in when we were going downhill fast and build this when many other B12 teams were on the rise (some back to prominence, OU and UT, and some with the best success they had ever had in our memories, KU, OSU and MU) meant that it will take more time.
I am stoked after watching the luncheon, as you can see that in addition to the positive talk, they have shown that some of the measurables, height, speed, wingspan, etc they are tracking and we are getting back to similar measurable as the top programs. To me that means that now, and in the next two years, it will start coming back to coaching and what the kids have in their heads and hearts, which Coach Hawk seems to measure as much as the height, speed, etc.
That's exactly where I'm at, too.Hawk gets me fired up and I get to thinking we are going to take the next step and burst onto the scene and then...more losses, no bowl etc... I want to belive it's going to happen, but I'm a results guy and after awhile,the talk doesn't stand up.
Would you rather....be a dog? or a cat?
I want an honest answer
Dood wore cool shades though.
It's not all about the wins and losses. Barnett was a creep, reference comments about Hnida, kept a slush fund that was not accounted, had little control over players... Hawkins is a better recruiter and a better man. And he hasn't run a fake punt in his own territory with an 11 point lead in the Big XII Ch Game (of course, he hasn't been in the game...).
In year four of a coach's tenure, it is about wins and losses. Even Hawk knows that.