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Official Buffs vs. Arizona Game Thread

DBT said:
I feel the same. Why do I do this anymore? With all the talk about ****ty assistant coaches and ****tier recruiting, I’m getting that same old, same old feeling. Tucker has treated us to two home losses against teams we should’ve beaten.
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It saddens me that you feel this way.

I truly enjoyed yesterday's game, and of course I'm really disappointed in the outcome. Both things are possible.

So many times I was struck by the beauty of the day, and joy of the atmosphere of college football. I enjoy reconnecting with the same fans that I have shared our section with for years. I think of all the ****ty football games I've watched in Folsom where we all knew it was over in the first or second quarter and I still stuck around to lift my hat and the final words "Dear old CU". Yesterday was a competitive game that I expected to win until the waning minutes.

The stadium was full yesterday. The band was loud. The students were drunk. I saw a gratuitous nipple from some hot chick. The mountains were beautiful and our team played a competitive football game.

I love college football, and I love the Buffs.

It's my hope that I'm not painted as some bad fan because I don't have standards or expectations for my team. I have an intensity around winning. But if my only expectation as a college football fan was wrapped up in the outcome of a game (a team loses every game), then I still wouldn't be a fan. I think this stuff is really fun.
 
Uncle Ken said:
It saddens me that you feel this way.

I truly enjoyed yesterday's game, and of course I'm really disappointed in the outcome. Both things are possible.

So many times I was struck by the beauty of the day, and joy of the atmosphere of college football. I enjoy reconnecting with the same fans that I have shared our section with for years. I think of all the ****ty football games I've watched in Folsom where we all knew it was over in the first or second quarter and I still stuck around to lift my hat and the final words "Dear old CU". Yesterday was a competitive game that I expected to win until the waning minutes.

The stadium was full yesterday. The band was loud. The students were drunk. I saw a gratuitous nipple from some hot chick. The mountains were beautiful and our team played a competitive football game.

I love college football, and I love the Buffs.

It's my hope that I'm not painted as some bad fan because I don't have standards or expectations for my team. I have an intensity around winning. But if my only expectation as a college football fan was wrapped up in the outcome of a game (a team loses every game), then I still wouldn't be a fan. I think this stuff is really fun.
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This. Except for the nipple. Great day to be in Folsom. Team competed hard. Lost a winnable game. That's sports. If all you care about is the result just check the scores after
 
Uncle Ken said:
It saddens me that you feel this way.

I truly enjoyed yesterday's game, and of course I'm really disappointed in the outcome. Both things are possible.

So many times I was struck by the beauty of the day, and joy of the atmosphere of college football. I enjoy reconnecting with the same fans that I have shared our section with for years. I think of all the ****ty football games I've watched in Folsom where we all knew it was over in the first or second quarter and I still stuck around to lift my hat and the final words "Dear old CU". Yesterday was a competitive game that I expected to win until the waning minutes.

The stadium was full yesterday. The band was loud. The students were drunk. I saw a gratuitous nipple from some hot chick. The mountains were beautiful and our team played a competitive football game.

I love college football, and I love the Buffs.

It's my hope that I'm not painted as some bad fan because I don't have standards or expectations for my team. I have an intensity around winning. But if my only expectation as a college football fan was wrapped up in the outcome of a game (a team loses every game), then I still wouldn't be a fan. I think this stuff is really fun.
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Let’s go back to the nipple for a second....
 
FightCu1414 said:
I think everyone else has touched on the game. Frustrating to say the least. My one and only (hopefully) drunken fan experience rant. I haven’t missed a CU home game since 2005 and never gotten into it with another fan. I sit in section 211 with my dad using the young alumni seats. I’ve never had any issues sitting there but today was a disaster. At the end of the first quarter I stood up just to stretch out a bit and some jackass behind me told me to sit down right when I stood up. I told him it’s the end of the quarter nothing is happening. His response was no one should stand ever because he wants to get a whole experience since it was his first game.

That caused me to lose it and asked him if we could stand on big third downs when we score etc. in which he responded grow up. Five minutes later he ended up being in the wrong seats and had to move and left after the second quarter. Also people seemed to have trouble reading where their seats were. We had five sets of different people sit in front of us and each got progressively kicked out of their spot. I guess I’m just curious if there’s any fellow allbuffs in 211.

Lastly, our production from a stadium standpoint is embarrassing. Twice they rang the bell on third down while we were on offense. Are you kidding me?! Several times they accidentally played music right before a play. It’s small time and gets old. Disappointing game on top of a disappointing fan experience.
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I didn’t run into this in 119 but I did have some jackass standing in my spot when I came back during halftime. He was talking to his friends in front of me, I walked up and he just stared at me so I asked him if he was lost because he was standing in my seat. He says, “nope” and continues to stand until his friend looked at me and told him to ****ing move. Otherwise it was peaceful, I actually sat next to 3 senior high school girls who are all incoming freshman who had never seen Ralphie run before. They were very nice and we chatted a bit before the game started. They were excited for CU and football so it was nice to see from in-state kids.


Kenneth said:
On a lighter note, how were concessions? Easy to get a beer? Concessions run out of anything? Long lines?

I’ll be at USC game. Hoping MT has defense tightened up somewhat. He’s a defensive guy right? I know secondary is thin and playing young guys. Tough to see D give up so many big plays.
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I didn’t see them run out of anything but the lines we’re still long, yes. I’m not sure how they fix that without adding a ton of more vendors. There were some small ice chest type vendors throughout just selling beer and some more on the south side outside who were just selling beer. I went up right before half and it still took me about 10 minutes to get a beer and a hot dog for my nephew

DBT said:
I feel the same. Why do I do this anymore? With all the talk about ****ty assistant coaches and ****tier recruiting, I’m getting that same old, same old feeling. Tucker has treated us to two home losses against teams we should’ve beaten.
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Because you care about the team and the kids that play for it? It’s definitely a long hard walk back to the car after a tough loss. But that’s the beauty of college football is it’s supposed to be a fun experience. One of the reasons this paying players makes me nervous, I don’t want it to be more like a business, I like it how it is.

One last thought. Bitching about our team doesn’t make them any better and it doesn’t improve facilities. You’re giving back to the kids when you go and you’re supporting them and future buffs and giving the school the means to build the infrastructure they need and improve the stadium.
 
Uncle Ken said:
It saddens me that you feel this way.

I truly enjoyed yesterday's game, and of course I'm really disappointed in the outcome. Both things are possible.

So many times I was struck by the beauty of the day, and joy of the atmosphere of college football. I enjoy reconnecting with the same fans that I have shared our section with for years. I think of all the ****ty football games I've watched in Folsom where we all knew it was over in the first or second quarter and I still stuck around to lift my hat and the final words "Dear old CU". Yesterday was a competitive game that I expected to win until the waning minutes.

The stadium was full yesterday. The band was loud. The students were drunk. I saw a gratuitous nipple from some hot chick. The mountains were beautiful and our team played a competitive football game.

I love college football, and I love the Buffs.

It's my hope that I'm not painted as some bad fan because I don't have standards or expectations for my team. I have an intensity around winning. But if my only expectation as a college football fan was wrapped up in the outcome of a game (a team loses every game), then I still wouldn't be a fan. I think this stuff is really fun.
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I’ll never stop. But not sure about season tickets. Wife is retiring and income will be a factor in the short term.
 
I don’t get the Montez criticism. He was pretty great in the first half. Bad drop by Arias and two Roddick penalties killed a sure touchdown and a promising drive, respectively, in the first half. The TD drive he led before half was a thing of beauty, too.

In the 2nd half, he had two odd misses that killed a drive plus that awful deep ball on 3rd down on the last drive. I didn’t see much else that I’d criticize. What did I miss?

Playcalling near the goal line was not great, too many runs up the middle. Also didn’t like that we called a timeout before the 4th and 4. Arizona looked a lot more organized coming out of it than we did. Gotta have a play ready to go there if we’re going to take a shot on 3rd down (regardless of whether that’s an audible by Montez). Never mind that the false start after a 7-8 yard run on 1st down was the reason we were in that position.

Through all that, we scored 30 and had a chance to win. Defense was just miserable once Onu went out as we lost whatever big play ability we had. Noyer should not play again. Go with the young guys.
 
BuffUp said:
sorry. We are a bad football team. The teams we beat are BAD football teams. We have a ways to go. Recruit. Recruit. Recruit. and that is obviously hard to do here at Colorado.
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"the teams we beat are BAD" Like 20th ranked asu, who beat cal and msu on the road? you kind of show you don't know what you're talking about with that post
 
BuffUp said:
sorry. We are a bad football team. The teams we beat are BAD football teams. We have a ways to go. Recruit. Recruit. Recruit. and that is obviously hard to do here at Colorado.
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One will make a bowl and Nebraska can pull out a couple more wins to get to six. I've said this several times-Oregon State is a project, and UCLA is a train wreck...........but the other 10 Pac 12 teams are really, really even.
 
CUwhit21 said:
I don’t get the Montez criticism. He was pretty great in the first half. Bad drop by Arias and two Roddick penalties killed a sure touchdown and a promising drive, respectively, in the first half. The TD drive he led before half was a thing of beauty, too.

In the 2nd half, he had two odd misses that killed a drive plus that awful deep ball on 3rd down on the last drive. I didn’t see much else that I’d criticize. What did I miss?

Playcalling near the goal line was not great, too many runs up the middle. Also didn’t like that we called a timeout before the 4th and 4. Arizona looked a lot more organized coming out of it than we did. Gotta have a play ready to go there if we’re going to take a shot on 3rd down (regardless of whether that’s an audible by Montez). Never mind that the false start after a 7-8 yard run on 1st down was the reason we were in that position.

Through all that, we scored 30 and had a chance to win. Defense was just miserable once Onu went out as we lost whatever big play ability we had. Noyer should not play again. Go with the young guys.
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We scored 10 points in the 2nd half and you just pointed to 3 drives in that half where Montez's performance was the difference in whether we had a scoring opportunity in a 1 possession game.

Add in that we had 6 scoring drives to Arizona's 5 but we kicked 3 field goals because Montez didn't make a play all day when he had a tight window.
 
Buffsrock85 said:
One last thought. Bitching about our team doesn’t make them any better and it doesn’t improve facilities. You’re giving back to the kids when you go and you’re supporting them and future buffs and giving the school the means to build the infrastructure they need and improve the stadium.
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We're fans. That's what we're here for each other for-especially after we lose a winnable game like yesterday was.
 
Uncle Ken said:
I really don't think we lost special teams yesterday. Yes, their kicker popped it through the uprights every kickoff, positioning us on the 25. We consistently pinned them back against their own end zone with punts.
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We won the field position battle, as context to your point as well.
 
Uncle Ken said:
I really don't think we lost special teams yesterday. Yes, their kicker popped it through the uprights every kickoff, positioning us on the 25. We consistently pinned them back against their own end zone with punts.
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That first punt was epic, punting was not the problem. With the 25 yard line being the starting point, shallower kickoffs geting fair caught at the 15 seem to be a good tactic.
 
Yesterday was obviously a tough loss, and its easy to fall back to the sky is falling like in previous years. But this is a new coaching staff, we had tons of injuries, and I don't think Arizona is a BAD team. Yes, we could have won that game, but like others have said, there seems to be more parity in the conference than we've seen in a while and there may not be much separating 1-10. Outside of maybe UCLA and OSU, it looks like anyone can beat anyone week to week and we just happened to come out on the wrong end this week, while ASU ended up on the wrong end last week. The one concern I would say is not being able to adjust to the quick pass and WR screens that were killing us in the 4th...whether that's on the coaching staff and scheme or young players/injuries, I don't know, but it definitely stood out.

As far as recruiting goes, I really believe that if Mel gets this thing going by winning a few more games in conference and making it to a bowl, we will see improved recruiting. I'm not sure I would say the same with MM in the past, who seemed to be hanging by a thread week to week and maybe didn't have the personality that Mel seems to have. That being said, it's tough to sell a program when you're not winning or have yet to prove you can win. So, win a few more games in conference--which I think is very doable--and I'd call this season a success. Judging by the crowd yesterday (wasn't at the game, but looked like one of the better crowds I can remember in a long time), I'd say the fans are ready to buy in too.

TLDR: lets wait and see how the season plays out before reverting to the sky is falling
 
A bowl game is not saving the defensive recruiting class. I do not know why that narrative keeps being repeated.

Some of you are acting like there is still a lot of time left for this class. Not so much.
 
Would also add that the parity in the Pac 12 seems like a breath of fresh air compared to the general trend in other conferences / college football as a whole. It seems like the CFP has created an arms race between OSU, OU, Bama, and Clemson at the expense of overall competitiveness in those conferences. I don't think its good for college football as a whole that OSU is to able to stockpile 4 and 5 star athletes and then beat up on traditionally good teams like Nebraska and Michigan State who have 1/10 the talent. If USC ever fires Clay Helton, they will probably join the trend, but for now its nice to see some competitive balance--another reason I'm less pessimistic about the result yesterday.
 
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The loss is frustrating, even more so when thinking about what if Viska was healthy, Mustafa is in, Maddox, Onu stays healthy. The patchwork team on the field hung in there. If a starter or two on defense is in the game, it could have been a small difference here and there.
 
Buffnik said:
We scored 10 points in the 2nd half and you just pointed to 3 drives in that half where Montez's performance was the difference in whether we had a scoring opportunity in a 1 possession game.

Add in that we had 6 scoring drives to Arizona's 5 but we kicked 3 field goals because Montez didn't make a play all day when he had a tight window.
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I pointed to two drives (three plays) in the 2nd half. Other players ruined at least two other drives over the course of the game. I wasn’t at the game so maybe I couldn’t see what he was missing as well as you.

I don’t know how we would place this loss anywhere but on the defense though.
 
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buff4bcs1985 said:
So Pursell is out indefinitely after surgery to remove his Gallbladder

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Sad end to the season for Pursell— I wish him the best and a quick recovery. Hard working player.

Next man up, Roddick, seems like he might have better upside, just needs to work on technique/mental errors. He’ll have to learn sooner now by being thrown in the fire.
 
Galbladder has recovery time of a few days to a week typically to get back on feet. Maybe 2 more weeks to be in condition to play football.
 
on a positive note some youth will gain experience. I have been rooting for the TE that transferred in, how far is he (Luke) from seeing the field?
 
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