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Mel Tucker leaves CU for Michigan State

And Oregon is a good parable. They looked in total disarray after Taggart left, and made an in house hire of a coach that was previously fired at Florida International, parted ways with their high priced DC, and now they are back on top.

Taggart got his big money, and is set for life. His coaching career isn’t much right now.
 
Creebuzz said:
And Oregon is a good parable. They looked in total disarray after Taggart left, and made an in house hire of a coach that was previously fired at Florida International, parted ways with their high priced DC, and now they are back on top.

Taggart got his big money, and is set for life. His coaching career isn’t much right now.
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A couple of differences but I’m hoping you’re right. The obvious difference is the amount of money Phil is willing to throw at coaches. The second difference is that Taggart (with Phil’s money) had pulled together a crazy good staff, especially on the recruiting side.

I don’t think it’s realistic to expect the same outcome.
 
Tucker is a POS. I hope he crashes and burns ASAP and I will forever hope that his career sucks from this point forward. He is everything that is wrong with college football. I hope he feels guilty. I hope he feels like ****. I hope MSU gets hit with so many lawsuits that they can't recover from it. What a POS institution. They truly deserve each other.
 
4thGenBuff said:
This is actually scientifically proven.
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Yep. After a few hundo thou, doesn’t give a person access to stuff they would be disappointed in their lives or feel unfulfilled not to have. I wonder if there was something else that made Mel unhappy at CU, which we’ll probably never know.

Very very disappointing turn of events, I’m extremely dismayed and feeling pretty spurned. The thing is, coaching isn’t like being a pro athlete, where you literally have to make as much as you can while you can, because you literally have 5-10 years max (and maybe as little as one or two, even if you’re the best player in the league an injury could end it all tomorrow and forever) as a pro athlete, and after that, who knows. Coaches can coach until they’re old and gray. As a HC, if not successful there, as an OC/DC, across multiple leagues, or in sports administration at a school/pro organization. So I don’t buy this “offered so much money he couldn’t refuse”. That’s BS - he absolutely could refuse and in my opinion, as a person of integrity, should have.

I’m getting pretty tired of these millions upon millions of dollars being thrown at coaches who don’t even win. Contract extensions for millions for Dan Hawkins, Mike MacIntyre that we’re paying for years after they’ve left. Half the coaches in the country aren’t winning coaches. Mel Tucker wasn’t a winning coach, and he was compensated millions of dollars for it. Not just that, he was offered even more to try it again at another school. What the hell is going on? What kind of crazy market forces are producing this insanity?
 
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Well. Still processing this.
To me it seems that Mel used RG and the media to negotiate with MSU.
so A+ on negotiating. D- for ethics.
For Mel $$$>>Integrity

But thinking about it’s actually better this way for CU. It stings. But likely he would be gone anyway. He could have done the politically astute thing and not said he was committed to CU
This way... we may have kids who want to leave... but no kids will want to leave for him.
 
Charlie Strong = Mel Tucker. Charlie flamed out with the big boys.....great recruiter.....supposedly great DC..... CMT got his bank....at a cost. Good riddance.
 
NW Buff said:
A couple of differences but I’m hoping you’re right. The obvious difference is the amount of money Phil is willing to throw at coaches. The second difference is that Taggart (with Phil’s money) had pulled together a crazy good staff, especially on the recruiting side.

I don’t think it’s realistic to expect the same outcome.
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True. But the immediate bar for CU is lower too. We just want someone to continue the build at the moment.
 
Like most of us, I was surprised this morning. But there was always an odd, jilting facade to the way Tucker presented himself. Even the video of him dancing with the kids after the Stanford win felt a little fake.

The timing of it is the worst. Other than that, I’m not too broken up about it. Tucker was average here at best as a game day coach. The AFA and Arizona losses at home were bad. This was a fine recruiting class but not even “average” in conference.

I don’t buy the money argument that any of us would’ve taken the MSU offer. Based on his prior jobs, Tucker should already be set for life. Even better with his contract here. There comes a certain point when money doesn’t matter. Most of us would’ve been well past that point with Tucker’s career earnings and salary at CU. He and his wife and his kids could’ve already lived in million dollar homes and driven Range Rovers for the rest of their lives. Plus, it sounds like we were willing to up the ante significantly.

I believe money was the motivating factor, I just think it will ultimately be an empty factor. Expectations will be higher and the cupboard at MSU is no fuller than here. Division is tougher. Maybe he makes it four years. He will be back in the league as a position coach after that.
 
azbuff said:
Like most of us, I was surprised this morning. But there was always an odd, jilting facade to the way Tucker presented himself. Even the video of him dancing with the kids after the Stanford win felt a little fake.

The timing of it is the worst. Other than that, I’m not too broken up about it. Tucker was average here at best as a game day coach. The AFA and Arizona losses at home were bad. This was a fine recruiting class but not even “average” in conference.

I don’t buy the money argument that any of us would’ve taken the MSU offer. Based on his prior jobs, Tucker should already be set for life. Even better with his contract here. There comes a certain point when money doesn’t matter. Most of us would’ve been well past that point with Tucker’s career earnings and salary at CU. He and his wife and his kids could’ve already lived in million dollar homes and driven Range Rovers for the rest of their lives. Plus, it sounds like we were willing to up the ante significantly.

I believe money was the motivating factor, I just think it will ultimately be an empty factor. Expectations will be higher and the cupboard at MSU is no fuller than here. Division is tougher. Maybe he makes it four years. He will be back in the league as a position coach after that.
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Million dollar homes? The Tuckers are gonna live in a Soho one bedroom?
 
snowman33 said:
Tucker is a POS. I hope he crashes and burns ASAP and I will forever hope that his career sucks from this point forward. He is everything that is wrong with college football. I hope he feels guilty. I hope he feels like ****. I hope MSU gets hit with so many lawsuits that they can't recover from it. What a POS institution. They truly deserve each other.
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Zihuatenejo
 
msu hired an unetical liar who finnished 5-7, although he did recruiit the 7th place class in what is, apparently, the worst P5 conference? If msu is very lucky, he'll keep them in 5th place in their division.
 
holy christ...

this is the MSU message board?



It's worse than netbuffs was 10 years ago.

Good luck coach ****er...you will live with this decision for the rest of your career.
 
i'm a husky and colorado resident. this just makes me sick. i want the buffs to do well. you won this year and i hope we win the next time. that's all i look forward to on game day. hope the recruits stick with the program. they should be free to transfer if they want to. feel sorry for all the players and fans he walked out on. the future isn't looking bright for the pac12 or college athletics if this it what it has come to. guy had an opportunity to build something at a great school and in a great college town. can't say my new coach will be any more committed. i can only hope. losing faith and interest in college football.
 
SDB said:
Charlie Strong = Mel Tucker. Charlie flamed out with the big boys.....great recruiter.....supposedly great DC..... CMT got his bank....at a cost. Good riddance.
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Charlie did have success as a HC at Louisville, have to wait and see with Tucker.
 
TSchekler said:
I also find it funny that this is some sort of dream job for Tucker. It’s not remotely close to a tier 1 program, he isn’t from Michigan, he played at and graduated from a conference rival, was never a full time assistant coach there, and only spent 2 seasons over 20 years ago as a ****ing graduate assistant.
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All about the marketing and narrative. Remember how he praised CU and tried to establish a connection because his Wiscy team got their butts kicked against us when he played?
 
TSchekler said:
I also find it funny that this is some sort of dream job for Tucker. It’s not remotely close to a tier 1 program, he isn’t from Michigan, he played at and graduated from a conference rival, was never a full time assistant coach there, and only spent 2 seasons over 20 years ago as a ****ing graduate assistant.
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One of his many lies
Destination Job, then Dream Job, then Greatest Job Ever and on and on
 
Tad Boyle with the kill shot

“Loyalty and commitment is a two-way street, and you have to have both parties on board with that,” Boyle said. “I’m happy for Mel and his opportunity, but I’m also happy for whoever the new coach is, and I’m going to support him any way I can.”

“Commitment and loyalty are words that you can’t talk about,” Boyle said. “They’re things you have to demonstrate and exhibit in your actions. That’s what we need — we need somebody who is totally loyal and committed to Colorado football.”
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www.denverpost.com

Tad Boyle talks Mel Tucker’s departure to Michigan State: “As a Colorado football fan, I’m disappointed”

CU football has run through Dan Hawkins, Jon Embree, Mike MacIntyre and now Tucker in the time since Boyle came to Boulder in 2010.
www.denverpost.com www.denverpost.com
 
TimmyDUBs said:
I’m sure it was already posted, but...
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I wonder what kind of bull**** he was feeding to PL when they were sitting together courtside at the Buffs MBB game a few weeks ago...

"Hey Phil, now that you're a star in the NFL can I get you to help me bump my status with the league? I won't let you down..."
 
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