If it helps, he can definitively tell you everyone else's standards, erroneously of course.
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If it helps, he can definitively tell you everyone else's standards, erroneously of course.
Yes, not doing a QB sneak on first and 10, and not trying a reverse on the opponent's goal line.
That, and serving beer at games.
Piss off
I don't think it has to be linear. And I think we all know that 2016 was more of a unicorn than it was a season that set a new norm. I'm confident, for instance, that we have a better coaching staff across the 10 guys and a better 85 man roster in 2018 than we did in 2016. I don't expect that means we're on the edge of the Playoff conversation into December this year, though.
I don’t know what you’re trying to accomplish with the interrogation here. I’ve already admitted that I am very much in the minority. Are you trying to convince me of something?
If you truly want a visual representation, draw a chart with wins on the vertical axis and years on the horizontal axis. Then put a dot at the meeting point where each year corresponds to the number of wins for that year. The draw a line that connects those dots.
Next, do the same thing for recruiting rankings in those years.
Then do the same thing for program revenue for those years.
Let me know what you find out.
A simple, “No. I don’t have tangible expectations for this program” would have sufficed.
I’m not saying the trajectory of the program is downward because of the results of two seasons. I’m just seriously wondering what NS means by trajectory of the program, because he’s incapable of explaining that.
Be sure to let me know what my answer should be next time you ask me a question.
Or... you could chart out the trajectory like I suggested.
I’ll save you the trouble, it’s positive across the board.
I’ve been asking you for your answer, not trying to put words in your mouth.
I think he's been as clear as he can be. He said it's not some objective measure, but he sees the program continually moving toward a better place than it had been in. Like porn, he can't define it but he knows it when he sees it. He also said that it might be a minority opinion and he's not trying to convince anyone of it. I don't know what you want for him other than for him to look at things differently than he does. He can't engage in the type of debate you're trying to have.
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Why do you care? I honestly don’t give a damn what you consider to be success. Why is my definition of success important to you?
I wasn’t asking what your definition of success was. I was asking what your tangible expectations for this program are. That’s all.
And why do you care about that? What difference do my tangible expectations make to you? I’ve stated an opinion and given an explanation for that opinion. I’m not trying to convince anybody to accept that opinion as theirs.
News flash: this is a college football fan site. We can share our opinions as we see fit without the need to go into details regarding the origins of those opinions. I feel no obligation to provide you anything more than I have.
Looks to me like we started at one and are now at about 5.5.
To my way of thinking, RG’s expectations for football and MM are crystal clear and outlined in the three year strategic plan presented last year.
Apparently my opinion is important to you as well. Yes, moving from one to 2.4 is an improvement. Yes, that is a positive trajectory. By definition, that is positive. I don’t know why you seem to be keen on trying to convince me otherwise.
You are free to your opinion. I will thank you to allow me to be free to my own.
JOEinDenver
National Championship or Bust
Double bottom reversal in place, off to the moon!
P12 Recruiting Trajrctory
10, 11, 12, 7, 9
Pick lowest of first two, average last three. Pronounce improvement and positive trajectory.
Low credibility with bias.
Silly.
You’re cherry picking rankings by using only PAC 12 rankings.
Viewed nationally, those same numbers are 67, 63, 70, 65, 32, and 51.
Any other bull**** you want to throw my way or are you still trying to convince me that this isn’t a positive trajectory?
Or perhaps you’re trying to convince yourself of something.
Sorry guys. You just keep trying to convince me of something that I don’t believe.
Clearly, it’s critical to many of you that I share your beliefs. I am heartbroken to inform you that your opinions mean nothing to me. I won’t try to convince you that going from dead worst to somewhere in the middle is progress. I won’t try to convince you that getting better is good. I won’t try to convince you that we still have a ways to go, and that we will definitely not get to where we want to be in one year or six. But by all means, please continue to try to prove to me that somehow this program is headed in the wrong direction.
Clearly, it’s critical to many of you that I share your beliefs. I am heartbroken to inform you that your opinions mean nothing to me. I won’t try to convince you that going from dead worst to somewhere in the middle is progress. I won’t try to convince you that getting better is good. I won’t try to convince you that we still have a ways to go, and that we will definitely not get to where we want to be in one year or six. But by all means, please continue to try to prove to me that somehow this program is headed in the wrong direction.
Mostly messing with you because you get to be deliberately vague, but somehow are convinced you know exactly how everyone else thinks.
No one is arguing the program is better than in 2013. Exactly zero posters on Allbuffs are arguing that at all.
There is legitimate concern that MM has taken the program as far as he can and that stagnation could be kicking in.
No one is arguing the program is better than in 2013. Exactly zero posters on Allbuffs are arguing that at all.
There is legitimate concern that MM has taken the program as far as he can and that stagnation could be kicking in.
The king of sarcastic posts has just accused me of being vague.
My work is done here.
Plot them. View the vast difference. Telling, amazingly so.
You win championships by winning your conference. I don’t care about national recruiting rankings and OOC games.
If you take the square root of the last three years and then double it, I think it might look better.
Talk about cherry picking. Ignoring some years, averaging others.
MM is who he is. Lipstick not needed.
For a new poster to crown me, that is pretty good. Thanks.
Improvement at CU is a tallest midget argument. RG has outlined expectations. I agree with them. Do you?