bigbang
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Recruting the best players should be the goal. After watching Colorado HS football in 2010, there aren't that many great players coming out in 2012 so far. But that can change with one more year of football to go.
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'12 CO TE Evan Baylis (Signed to Oregon)
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Recruting the best players should be the goal. After watching Colorado HS football in 2010, there aren't that many great players coming out in 2012 so far. But that can change with one more year of football to go.
I guess you see this class of Colorado prospects much different than our coaching staff.
not bueno.
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
What happens when he gets thrown to once a year?
somebody
Well-Known Member
This is why we need to do a lot better on the field, starting right away, even if it doesn't always translate to wins. They've gotta see the potential and want to be part of it.
Sexton Hardcastle
Club Member
Bingo.
Winning this season will have a lot bigger impact on the 2013 class than the 2012 class. Even if we have a disappointing year, we can sell playing time and a new staff. We just have to look decent while losing (like when Stanford was losing but upset USC a few years ago). Winning certainly would help a bit in 2012, but it will have a larger impact on making it much easier to get a jump on the 2013 class.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Honestly, take emotion out of it for a minute - you've got two offers on the table, one is from a program that has been irrelevant for 8-9 years, is breaking in a brand new coach who has never been a HC before, and will run an offense that is a question mark because no one has seen it yet...the other is from the defending conference champion coming off a BCS championship game, they have arguably the best facilitites in the country, and they will play in Boulder at least twice during your college career.
Look I hope he has a change of heart, but no one should be shocked when a kid makes a decision like this.
But why would a TE commit to Oregon, whom doesn't throw to TE's often, if at all? I get being caught up in the facilities, winning, and coming off of a BCS game, but unless he only wants to block at Oregon, I don't see the logic in this.
Sexton Hardcastle
Club Member
We can still pull plenty of top talent from this years recruiting crop. I think we could also flip Baylis with a solid showing this year. It's going to be fun to watch.
This years class is really big for the new staff.
This years class is really big for the new staff.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Maybe he's more interested in winning than catching a ton of balls, maybe the coaches told them they plan to use the TE more this year, maybe Helfrich unloaded a top 10 list of reasons CU is the worst program in the country, who knows, but I don't see how people can seem so shocked a kid picks Oregon over CU.
I'm not shocked. But there are some damn good reasons for him to commit to CU, too. You just listed the negatives.
Our head coach is one of the premier TE coaches in the nation, the offense is featuring the position, it's Baylis's home state's flagship university, one of his good friends (Clay Norgard) is committed, there's a great opportunity to get playing time as a true freshman, it is a program that has shown over time that it is in the upper echelon and can be elite, the academics are superior, and there's a definite appeal to being part of the recruiting class that brings a program back to prominence.
Taking nothing away from Oregon and all it has going for it, CU has a hell of a lot to sell to Evan Baylis too.
White_Rabbit
Well-Known Member
Well that sucks. I was definitely thinking Baylis was ours to lose, which we apparently have. As long as we get one of Cope-Fitzpatrick/McNamara/Kourtzidis then it won't hurt as much, but I was hoping it would be more of a Baylis + one of those situations.
Sexton Hardcastle
Club Member
Sometimes kids just want to get as far away from their parents/hometown as possible.
I also think every school offers early playing time. "If you come in and work hard" line is probably pitched by every school to every top recruit. So I don't think it's a pitch that we should be counting on. :lol:
Plus have you seen Oregons facilities? I know that's probably not the deciding factor, but they do have some sweet digs.
[video=youtube;J1NyaTVUhFQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1NyaTVUhFQ[/video]
I also think every school offers early playing time. "If you come in and work hard" line is probably pitched by every school to every top recruit. So I don't think it's a pitch that we should be counting on. :lol:
Plus have you seen Oregons facilities? I know that's probably not the deciding factor, but they do have some sweet digs.
[video=youtube;J1NyaTVUhFQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1NyaTVUhFQ[/video]
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
No question, CU has tons to offer, but from some of the earlier posts you would have thought we lost him to CSU or something.
Sexton Hardcastle
Club Member
Another thing is no top recruit is going to know who Jon Embree is until he does something here as our HC. When your going up against Chip Kelley, Slick Rick, Bob Stoops, and Mack Brown for recruits, few kids are going to be wowed by Jon Embree's name.
I think Baylis will take some visits and this one will drag out awhile. I actually think Stanford might end up being the destination, but our coaches will not give up on this one. We need tight ends in this class and Brookhart will stay on him.
As far as winning this season, we will need to show something, but new coaching staffs generally get a pretty big bump regardless of record. But Nik is right, what we show on the field this season has a bigger impact on the 2013 class.
As far as winning this season, we will need to show something, but new coaching staffs generally get a pretty big bump regardless of record. But Nik is right, what we show on the field this season has a bigger impact on the 2013 class.
Sexton Hardcastle
Club Member
I guess. I'm just getting sick and tired of hearing the "wait till next year" line.
I'm with you on that.
I want to win this year. We need it on so many levels. And for recruiting, we've got such a huge senior class that we can promise every recruit early playing time regardless of position or how well the season goes.
We can only hope he wises up on this one. Coach will be fired over this, probably other people in the AD since there was a cover up, it might be an institutional control issue since the hoops team is also under investigation, and there was also the issue with the UO administrator giving a player the use of a rental car. This thing's going to explode and the penalty will be worse than USC got or what OSU is going to get. Those were extra benefits for players after signing, Oregon's got that going on plus paying money to directly gain recruiting advantages. Unlike OSU, who self-reported, the UO people tried to cover their situation up. It's going to be bad when the **** hits the fan.
It's time to visit all Duck commits.
BehindEnemyLines
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Johnny Juzang
Well-Known Member
Hope to see you and Nick in Boulder this fall, Evan. I think Christian's headed back up, too. The pro-stye offense will look better for the next level.