Nah man, he had a great close to the end of 2018 which is why expectations were so high going into last year and we didn’t know about his injury until late.
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'17 FL OLB Carson Wells (Signed to COLORADO)
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Bigbang, Good Lord, I'm just not saying anything.
Just looking at the numbers man. No need to get into a huge debate about it.
What numbers? I just remember him really coming on strong those last couple of games. Either way, him being rated as a 2 star was just stupid. Good size and came up in person to CU to show his speed in a camp. Nothing has surprised me about his play
Worse stats in 2018, outside of sacks, in 3x the amount of games as 2020. He’s been a 3 year contributor/starter which is great, and we need more recruits like him, but it took him 4 years to get to the point where he’s playing at a high level.
Think he comes back next year? It would certainly help.
Okay again, he played at a high level near the end of that year, it didn’t take 4 years for him to get here. He had all of his sacks in the last 5 games.
I would say 2018 Carson Wells is an example of a lower rated recruit showing flashes of being able to play at this level, but he definitely needed 4 years to get to the level that he played at this year, which is hopefully the level that we get out of most players in year 2, if we’re recruiting at an appropriate level.
I thought this year didn't count in terms of eligibility, is that not correct?
So you think we should be getting all conference play from players in their second year? That seems a little outlandish
Lol what?? Is that not the level of player we are trying to recruit? I understand it’s not going to be every recruit but if the expectation is that all of our recruits are going to take 4 years to get there, this program is staying in borderline bowl eligibility status
The expectation is not to have sophomore and redshirt freshman playing at an all conference level. That is very rare. There were 6 total players on the first and second all pac 12 teams in 2019 out of 42.
bigbang2
blindslighted
Some of the players you listed had injury problems. Recruiting is not a perfect science. Players don't wok out. You are actually helping me prove my point. It is about player development(coaching) and talent evaluation/ We have had bad coaches at CU, poor talent evaluators.
B.S.
I pay a lot less attention to star rating than I do to offers but they are usually tied together.
The idea that one staff is smarter at "finding" talent than the rest is a fantasy. These coaches are paid very well for doing a job they love, if they don't win they get fired.
There aren't many "hidden gems" out there. With digital technology and the internet it is easy for even players from small schools, losing schools, schools in weak states or leagues to get seen. Add the 7 on 7 leagues and summer camps and no there aren't many guys who get "overlooked," certainly not enough to build a program on.
Offers say that other schools coaches think a guy can play or at least develop into a player. When a guy doesn't have significant P5 offers it isn't because he hasn't been seen, it is because other P5 programs don't think he can play, and those guys are paid to make those judgements, if they aren't good at it they aren't working fairly soon.
Certainly there are exceptions, there are kids from D2 schools in the NFL, but if a kid doesn't have enough offers to pull him out of 2* status the odds are that no, he can't play, no matter how good the coaching is.
Injuries happen at every program and to players of all ratings so that’s irrelevant to this discussion.
You highlighted Solder and Bakhtiari as shining examples of talent evaluation and development but when faced with the players surrounding them in their respective recruiting classes who were non-factors at CU claim it’s because our coaches were bad evaluators.
If you’re strategy is to recruit classes full of less talented players hoping to find the next Solder or Bakhtiari, you have CU football the last 15 years. Let’s try something different for a change.
o_robbie
I don't think before I post
Lets hope Wells comes back. We need him at OLB next season to keep the defense improving. As far as the debate goes....I would say that CU recruiting has been pretty bad for the past decade. We are probably on par with a Boise State and that simply isn't good enough. Add to that... I don't think we have developed the 4 star players into NFL caliber talent well enough. There is a reason why we have been below .500 consistently.
HuskerHater
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https://theathletic.com/2649433/202...c-state-to-baylor/?source=user_shared_article
10. Carson Wells, Colorado, LB:The Florida native was overshadowed by tackle machine Nate Landman, but Wells managed 13.5 TFLs in 2020 and has continued to polish his game. Wells, who is described as “ox strong” by coaches, grew up on a cattle ranch and is expected to shock people on his pro day. He’s hit over 20 mph on the GPS and could be up for All-America honors in 2021.
10. Carson Wells, Colorado, LB:The Florida native was overshadowed by tackle machine Nate Landman, but Wells managed 13.5 TFLs in 2020 and has continued to polish his game. Wells, who is described as “ox strong” by coaches, grew up on a cattle ranch and is expected to shock people on his pro day. He’s hit over 20 mph on the GPS and could be up for All-America honors in 2021.
Ringer
Well-Known Member
He led the nation in TFL/game.