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'19 TNFR QB Jalen Hurts (Committed to Oklahoma)
- Thread starter Buffnik
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He would be an upgrade over Montez. It's OK to say it outright.
When I started this thread, it was mostly a joke on the night of last season's national championship game that had the Tua comeback performance.
This has become very real, however.
Hurts is a good college QB who has Sefo-like character while being more of a natural leader.
This has become very real, however.
Hurts is a good college QB who has Sefo-like character while being more of a natural leader.
Sure, just not necessarily in the obvious ways. I think he would have plenty of WTF moments behind this line. I think his greatest value is leadership. He would not put up with any ****.
Agreed, although, I'm not sure it's obvious what he lacks that Montez has on the tangible side of things. Regardless, he's a guy with 2 National Championship rings, has btdt, wants desperately to prove he is an NFL QB and is definitely a natural leader.
Medford M.
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In leadership, probably, but he would hamstring the offense.
ahoelsken
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Medford M.
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It's weird how little respect Montez gets from some on this board.
Hurts is going to have to find a very specific fit to be successful. He's never had a sub par line on front of him or anything other than NFL players to hand and throw it to.
Everybody else's fault but Montez's. Yep! Spot on!
Maybe I am in the minority, but I think Montez is the best QB CU has had in the last ten years.
Joe Theismann's Leg
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Couldn't agree more. Same thing with Sefo when he was here. People constantly bashed him. It's weird how much Buffs fans seem to hate the Buffs' QB
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
Is that even praise?
Sefo, Hawkins, Hansen, Jackson, Wood. So much elite in that group.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
One QB is an NFL prospect (regardless of your opinion) and one isn't a QB.
Sefo was elite in my heart goddamit. And he was elite when reasonably healthy in 2016. But barely, and it all went south quick when he wasn't close to 100% because he had no margin for error. You don't get a cup of coffee for being just good.
WarBuff
Club Member
I would agree. Sefo was a much stronger leader, but in terms of straight skill set, Montez is the best over 10 if not 15 years. I doubt any QB will be successful behind a Klayton Adams coached line
Fair point, but still....
NFL prospects are completely irrelevant in this discussion. Hurts has proven to be a highly effective college QB on the biggest stage multiple times. CU would be lucky to get him for a year.
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Medford M.
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If you think he looks remotely the same with I'd talent as he did with Bama, IDK what to tell you.
I'm not asking you to tell me anything. I believe Hurts is an upgrade over Montez in most departments. Just one man's opinion.
IIRC, this is not a question of Montez vs Hurts. This would be Montez' last year to play and Hurts would have to sit out this year as a transfer. Hurts isn't a graduate transfer, is he?!?!
Anyway, I think Montez is very good QB and will stand out with a better OL and better play calling.
Anyway, I think Montez is very good QB and will stand out with a better OL and better play calling.
...and how does that happen?
hurts is eligible immediately
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
Hurts is a grad transfer.
Hmm . . . . HCMT.
And yes, AB is right, Hurts, even though he's a junior, graduated in December and can play immediately.
Hurts is available and able to play immediately
Montez has until January 14th to declare
I am happy with SM coming back and playing in Johnson's offense because I think it will help him get to the league
BUT, if Montez decides to give it a shot because the QB draft is the weakest it has ever been,
THEN please please please go and get Jalen Hurts to be the Buffs QB because he will lead and play very hard
HOWEVER, it is very likely that if I were him, I would head over to Tennessee and play there, because he would win that job
Montez has until January 14th to declare
I am happy with SM coming back and playing in Johnson's offense because I think it will help him get to the league
BUT, if Montez decides to give it a shot because the QB draft is the weakest it has ever been,
THEN please please please go and get Jalen Hurts to be the Buffs QB because he will lead and play very hard
HOWEVER, it is very likely that if I were him, I would head over to Tennessee and play there, because he would win that job
I am very pleased by the HCMT hire. I fail to see how it automatically upgrades the OL. Unfortunately, it has been a very weak unit comparable to our P12 peers. Unless, HCMT is going to man one of the OL spots, I kind of doubt there will be a dramatic, immediate difference. The OL is going to have to be rebuilt by recruiting better OL. That will take some time.
Hopefully, HCMT and staff can come up with some work arounds that net more wins than CU has enjoyed recently.
I think it’s reasonable to suggest a major upgrade is coaching can have a substantial positive impact on that position group. Not to say that will solve the entire issue, but with any luck, Moretti, Ray and Roddick will factor in next year, along w Lynott being fully healthy and Sherman, Fillip and Pursell getting better.
Hiring a real OL coach should show noticeable improvement on the OL in year one. We hired a real OL coach.