That looks like Jessica Simpson, not Brittney Spears.
Yeah, but I'd argue Patterson was probably an upgrade over Baer too-I tend to think of it more like RG simply found what he believes is a better fit for this program right now in CMT. You lose me on the notion of ignoring (insert name of Group of 5 coach here) because they're in the Group of 5.
That looks like Jessica Simpson, not Brittney Spears.
It is. Both are allegedly on his visitor log
Including his brother. Maybe Luke Wells is a decent enough coach but we need a break from this family stuff.If RG had hired Matt Wells and Wells had essentially brought over the Utah State staff en masse, I would hope CU's fan base would see that as a giant red flag.
I've heard that Day was seen as a long shot due to the probabilities with tOSU. I'm not convinced he was on the final list and we'll probably never know.
The issue is not a new HC hiring new assistants. The issue is that the big problem with hiring a HC from the G5 ranks is that he doesn't know the P5 world or the recruits who you need to win. When he brings his G5 staff instead of making legit P5 hires, it compounds the weakness by orders of magnitude. Leaders should always hire to shore up their own weaknesses.
I think what changed was that OSU decided to go with Day instead of doing a search for a guy like Campbell.That would make sense-Klatt said on the Fan today that Urban told he and Gus when they met prior to Michigan that he was leaning toward stepping down but asked them to keep it quiet.
Campbell is a relative unknown to OSU. He never played or worked there. Day worked there and is known. /storyI think what changed was that OSU decided to go with Day instead of doing a search for a guy like Campbell.
Fair. One point about Embree that I'd add is that he inherited a situation where we'd had a lame duck who couldn't recruit the previous 2 seasons. A lot about the program was shaky. He went scorched earth on it, which might be a fine approach if you're Chip Kelly with the cache and job security he has at UCLA but was a disastrous approach for where we were at the time at CU.My original point goes back to the comment I made about MM yesterday-he accomplished what he was brought here to do-get this program out of the morass that the Embree disaster put it in. He took over what was the worst power 5 program at that point in time, and brought it back to respectability. CMT is about getting from that point to national prominence. I've seen enough of the bulk of this staff when it comes to recruiting to argue that they can't get the talent we need to get ourselves there. Keep Chev as WR/RC, and that's about it to me.
The issue is not a new HC hiring new assistants. The issue is that the big problem with hiring a HC from the G5 ranks is that he doesn't know the P5 world or the recruits who you need to win. When he brings his G5 staff instead of making legit P5 hires, it compounds the weakness by orders of magnitude. Leaders should always hire to shore up their own weaknesses.
I disagree. When you have a system in place at a program that is super successful, promoting from within minimizes the pain associated with a transition. If you are confident your internal guy can do the job (not always the case), then you plug him in and keep the machine rolling.I wonder if Urb pushed Ohio St to hire Day so he can maintain some level of control over the program that he wouldn't have with Matt Campbell. I'm not sure they made the best choice for the long term.
What does that have to do with anything?Campbell is a relative unknown to OSU. He never played or worked there. Day worked there and is known. /story
I agree.I disagree. When you have a system in place at a program that is super successful, promoting from within minimizes the pain associated with a transition. If you are confident your internal guy can do the job (not always the case), then you plug him in and keep the machine rolling.
Fair. One point about Embree that I'd add is that he inherited a situation where we'd had a lame duck who couldn't recruit the previous 2 seasons. A lot about the program was shaky. He went scorched earth on it, which might be a fine approach if you're Chip Kelly with the cache and job security he has at UCLA but was a disastrous approach for where we were at the time at CU.
I'll go to my grave believing that the biggest thing that led to Embree's failure was the intense emotional hatred he had for Hawkins and Bohn with what they'd done to the program he loves. It blinded him to being able to accept that anything either of them had done or anything associated with them was something that could be worked with or built upon.
I agree.
Strangely, that seems to work better in the corporate world than it does with sports teams though. Other than Siefert taking over for Walsh in San Fran, I'm struggling to think of examples where passing the torch internally kept things rolling at the same level.
Osborne, Chip Kelly at Oregon, Peterson, Switzer, and Lincoln Reilly are all good examples of this practice that have worked at the collegiate level.I agree.
Strangely, that seems to work better in the corporate world than it does with sports teams though. Other than Siefert taking over for Walsh in San Fran, I'm struggling to think of examples where passing the torch internally kept things rolling at the same level.
I agree.
Strangely, that seems to work better in the corporate world than it does with sports teams though. Other than Siefert taking over for Walsh in San Fran, I'm struggling to think of examples where passing the torch internally kept things rolling at the same level.
You're right. All situations where they had built up incredibly strong organizations and didn't need a HC to change culture. tOSU fits that mold.Osborne, Chip Kelly at Oregon, Peterson, Switzer, and Lincoln Reilly are all good examples of this practice that have worked at the collegiate level.
Campbell is a relative unknown to OSU. He never played or worked there. Day worked there and is known. /story
who the HELL thought we should hire Wells ??Hopefully that right there changes the mind of everyone who thought we should hire Wells.
I think that CU and MM will negotiate a settlement that's outside of the strict contract language. But if not, we can only hope that Ole Miss is successful this year and it springboards MM into a HC job somewhere in 2020.Seems to be a lot of smoke on the Ole Miss boards that Mac is going to be their DC.
Are they actually excited for that? I kind of feel like he's a better head coach than coordinator, his defenses weren't actually anything special at Duke. Also I love the hypocrisy in hiring a guy they accused of pulling the race card to keep a commit here, but whatever.Seems to be a lot of smoke on the Ole Miss boards that Mac is going to be their DC.
Are they actually excited for that? I kind of feel like he's a better head coach than coordinator. Also I love the hypocrisy in hiring a guy they accused of pulling the race card to keep a commit here, but whatever.
Are they actually excited for that? I kind of feel like he's a better head coach than coordinator, his defenses weren't actually anything special at Duke. Also I love the hypocrisy in hiring a guy they accused of pulling the race card to keep a commit here, but whatever.
Assume you are not serious.What does that have to do with anything?
Tom FloresI agree.
Strangely, that seems to work better in the corporate world than it does with sports teams though. Other than Siefert taking over for Walsh in San Fran, I'm struggling to think of examples where passing the torch internally kept things rolling at the same level.
Ari Wasserman reported talks back in Sept about a transition to Day. Gene Smith, AD, acknowledged the story at yesterday’s Presser. It has been going on for a while. Really gathered steam the last month. I have a hard time believing Day was ever s viable candidate in any way for the CU job.That would make sense-Klatt said on the Fan today that Urban told he and Gus when they met prior to Michigan that he was leaning toward stepping down but asked them to keep it quiet.