I remember in 2011 the last home NIT game was over spring break and a ton of students still showed up. One of the announcers actually said "aren't these students supposed to be on spring break?" Those were heady times.
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2019 NIT thread
- Thread starter Darth Snow
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We’re not playing tomorrow. I guarantee it.
No NIT games on Thursday. Friday or Saturday are possibilities, but Sunday or Monday are more likely.
“I'm all for local guys making it good. But competing against Dayton in the NIT is quite a long road away from competing against Ja Morant in the NCAA tournament (or Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Gonzaga, Tennessee, Michigan, Michigan State, Florida State (who has like 4 Tyler Beys by the way, with another on the way next year) et al).”
Mixed up you and brettden.
WarBuff
Club Member
Well it worked so well for HCMM!
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brettden
Well-Known Member
I think the evaluation phase needs work. And taking a chance on guy who is 6'8" and is elite athletically to me is different than say taking a 6'8" kid from Columbine who can hardly dunk. I know this will sounds harsh, but if you are trying to win you don't keep (or add) rmarginal players in the program. So I guess yes I would be on board with a diamond in the rough type prospect every other year or so. Or maybe I don't even have a point I'm just wishful thinking. Nevertheless, some roots into the southeast couldn't hurt.
brettden
Well-Known Member
That is a fair point. Mistakes, or poor evaluation of talent in either sport can kill your team.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
I agree with the sentiment that its better to find an elite athlete and teach him how to play basketball rather than find a skilled guy with marginal athleticism and pray he becomes more athletic.
The latter obviously isn't possible, but say you hit on 1 of 3 of each guy.
If you recruited the athletes, you have a high level dude and two guys who can run, jump, and defend.
The three non athletes will still be unathletic and at a disadvantage.
Give Tyler and Kin as much time as possible to heal up!!! Nice job RG and TB, hope it helps out, this team has some serious fight in them now. Wish we knew where Lucas Siewert’s game went?
You are right.
Seriously, for a couple of hours after the Norfolk game, every app or site that actually listed the game (some didn't have it at all) had it tomorrow with TBA as tip off time.
No matter. Easier for me to get tickets and make a plan with a couple more days notice anyway.
Birch1
Well-Known Member
If the non-athlete is a pure shooter, at least there’s that. But we’ve also been burned by the athletes, with guys like Jaron Hopkins. But he went on to play pretty good for Boise so maybe that was a team leadership thing. Although I loved him during that CSU game.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
I think you mean Fresno, but yeah. Hopkins wasn't as successful here because he's not really a guy who can shine within the confines of running offensive sets.
This. I used to be dumbfounded watching Hopkins in our offense. "One of these kids is doing his own thing..."
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
For what it's worth. Hop and Fletch were way better players than what they showed here.
That's part of my point. The priority can't be that athleticism and talent trumps a skill set and overall program fit. Dustin looked good when he got to Arkansas. They were all good basketball players.
he was sooooo fake money there...
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
I'm always for fitting the program to the talent. College coaches need to play a more fast and loose style IMO.
brettden
Well-Known Member
This is probably a big issue for buffs. Tad wants to play disciplined set offense, but the type of player that often breaks open a game don't often thrive in that scenario. Gotta find a compromise somewhere in the middle maybe.
Tad seems to have been willing to move more that direction with Kin than he has in the past.
what indicates this to you? I don't claim technical expertise in basketball, but to my casual observation, CU plays less of a set offense than any other team I follow (VT, Wisconsin).
You're right here, but also Wisconsin traditionally is one of the most set offense teams in the country. I haven't watched a lot of Va Tech the last couple years, but Buzz Williams seems to be a big set guy from memory.
if a fan of another team asked you what offense the Buffs run, what would you answer?
Birch1
Well-Known Member
It’s how you look at it. The offense is often pretty piss poor. We come up and pass to the big guy trailing for no reason at all (and he almost travels every time because he doesn’t want to jump stop because it’s a stupid pass and he’s just trying to get down to the block, and then he moves it to the wing who passes back to the point. Every time. It just wastes time off the clock. Why do we do this idiotic thing?