I'm not a big fan of the P12 either but we wouldn't have gotten that Champions Center had we stayed in the Big 12. This season showed me that I do not have to watch any other P12 team besides CU.
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2020-2021 Bowl Games Thread
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I'm not a big fan of the P12 either but we wouldn't have gotten that Champions Center had we stayed in the Big 12. This season showed me that I do not have to watch any other P12 team besides CU.
Given that embrace between Mond and Fisher...I guess Mond is moving on after this season.
Rough bowl season for the ACC
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Why no Champions Center without P12? We would get more money from Big 12 right?
It’s still possible that the Big 12 $ would be enough but it would have been harder to raise $ in the Big 12 where it seemed like football was about dead in the water as opposed to the excitement of a new beginning even if we had no idea how much the P12 presidents treated football as opposed to the Big 12 presidents.
The truth hurts. The Pac-12 sucks
Anyone CFP worthy?
Going to be a bloodbath at the top again between USC, Utah, oregon and Washington so I don’t know if we will get a one loss champion. If there is one I don’t see them missing the playoff though
Don’t even need that, a 1 loss champion will make the playoff as well
True, but I think it's a rougher look for the pac. All but 2 teams turtled in a year that bowl games were guaranteed.
Crown of the helmet rule was put in primarily to protect the hitter in an effort to eliminate spinal compression injuries.
The Ryan Shazier rule.
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I joined just to say, as a Cyclone fan, I'd love to have you guys and most of the original Big8 back together again...I'd love to let TexA$$ be independent and do their own thing, how's this look?
Arizona
Arizona State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas Tech
Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Nebraska
Utah
Give me an excuse to go to a game at one of the most beautiful towns in the US, guess I just miss you guys, its true you probably fit in better in the PAC culture wise but whatever it doesn't sound like it's been a great fit anyway.
First off, let me say that Iowa State fans have consistently been the most gracious fans that I've encountered in college football, and I appreciate your sentiments here. Also, I was beyond impressed with the Cyclone's performance in this year's bowl game. It was a treat to see such a well-coached disciplined team impose their will on the hapless Ducks.I joined just to say, as a Cyclone fan, I'd love to have you guys and most of the original Big8 back together again...I'd love to let TexA$$ be independent and do their own thing, how's this look?
Arizona
Arizona State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas Tech
Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
****braska
Utah
Give me an excuse to go to a game at one of the most beautiful towns in the US, guess I just miss you guys, its true you probably fit in better in the PAC culture wise but whatever it doesn't sound like it's been a great fit anyway.
Having said that. Looking at this list of teams that I couldn't give two ****s about that represent some of the most dog**** destinations in our country has only reinforced my commitment to the (admittedly) dysfunctional Pac 12. The Arizonas bring a little interest and intrigue (but are generally the least interesting element of the Pac 12 for me). I'm apathetic about Utah. Oklahoma is a great program with great tradition and I've always hated their fans. But overall, there's not much I find interesting on that list as a team or a destination.
To me, that list feels like leftover meatloaf. So bland.
I joined just to say, as a Cyclone fan, I'd love to have you guys and most of the original Big8 back together again...I'd love to let TexA$$ be independent and do their own thing, how's this look?
Arizona
Arizona State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas Tech
Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
****braska
Utah
Give me an excuse to go to a game at one of the most beautiful towns in the US, guess I just miss you guys, its true you probably fit in better in the PAC culture wise but whatever it doesn't sound like it's been a great fit anyway.
First of all thank you for beating Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl.
I wouldn't mind swapping those Kansas schools for the Arizona schools in football. That set up reminds me of the competitive imbalance of the old Big 12 where the South had all of that recruiting advantage. Either give our division the Texas schools or the Arizona schools and wouldn't you want to be in the same division where you got Brock Purdy from?
Given the rumblings of those Arizona schools wanting to leave the Pac-12 and over many conservations with Utah fans online, those three fanbases appear to me that they wouldn't mind being in the Big 12. Going to the MWC would be just too easy and that wouldn't look good for three AAU schools (UA, CU, and Utah). The Big 12 might have to fight with the B1G for those four schools in that case.
There isn't much difference competition wise between the Big 12 and Pac-12 except it seems to me that the Pac-12 is more competitive but that is from so many years of seeing bad KU football teams. The Buffs have been competitive in the Pac-12 since at least 2014 and I don't think it would have been much different in the Big 12 either. We are who we are.
Did you know that CU & Utah are actually more north than the Bay Area schools? For competitive and recruiting reasons, the Buffs and Utes are in the South Division as a result. I was probably one of those few CU fans who wanted CU in that North Division with the WA and OR schools because disliking them felt more natural.
Nothing but respect for the Cyclone fanbase...I remember you guys giving us a fight at Folsom Field in 1990 and that program has come a long way with whatever resources they had at their disposal.
Sayeth the one who started the Texas appreciation thread.
Let's say we had to choose between playing Oklahoma, Texas, and Nebraska as opposed to USC, UCLA, and Utah. I think that Big 12 pick would win in a landslide because both LA schools have been garbage compared to the Texas & OU duo since the Buffs have joined. I didn't like USC back in the early 2000s when they were cheating and nothing is going to change with squeaky clean Mike Bohn as their AD.
Holy ****
ObtuseBuff strikes again! Allsome.
Dude.
Umm. Subscribed.
Probably the best place for this. Joel’s ideas for playoff expansion
How about none of the above.
College football does not need to, nor will it be helped by trying to imitate the NFL.
Other than the fact that a lot of people enjoy watching them lose and lose big did anyone really consider the ND-Alabama game a "playoff." Did ND even consider mention as potentially the best team in the nation this year.
Had ND won that game it would have been because Bama was missing a bunch of guys due to Covid or some other event. Nobody really thinks that ND was the best team over the course of this year. If they won it would nave been timing and dumb luck.
I'm not interested in a college champion based on timing and dumb luck.