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The same 5 teams that would play the late schedule this year.
Without the Cal schools we'd have an 8 team league. Just play that schedule starting in October.
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2020 CU football season POSTPONED until Nov 6th?
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Without the Cal schools we'd have an 8 team league. Just play that schedule starting in October.
I think you replied to someone with a similar name. Sorry, not me.Nice try, clownface. Couldn't even respond directly to my post owing your moronic arguments. The difference between Ivy League universities and those found in the ACC, SEC, Big 12, and Big 10 is that the AD is subordinate to the academic administration in the Ivy League, but the situation is reversed (or at least at equipoise) in the others.
If that's too many words for you to understand, just think of this: those genius with N for knowledge on their helmets were hell-bent on playing no matter what. That makes you just like them. So, are you a ****er?
Notre Dame is a renowned academic institution and this is from their AD Swarbrick:
So you're telling me the Notre Dame AD is all for the Notre Dame AD's decision to play football this fall.I can't access the whole article (because Murdoch), but it's laughable for him to argue that it's ticket and concession money that makes the difference, not the millions from NBC--which wouldn't have been guaranteed in the spring.
Pac 12 needs to play more than just 6 games this year. Bowl games, if they happen, are going to be another drain on the financials
You realize that it’s possible for people to lie, right?
Stanford has no undergraduates on campus this quarter and is completely online. Just sayin'.
Canzano: Big Ten football is back, Pac-12 Conference must follow
Governors in Oregon and California hold the keys.
www.oregonlive.com
GuySmiley
Don't Drink the Kool-Aid
I think they just need to get CA's governor on the phone ASAP and have him make the decision for the CA teams. IMO, he can have a day or two to think about it; and whatever decision he makes should be respected. An 8 league team starting in October could be interesting. I'm just not sure a few of the teams can get going that fast for October. Does anyone know if the AZ, WA and OR schools are even doing limited football activities on campus?? AZ's outbreak just regressed a few weeks ago. I'd imagine OR schools are not due to wildfires. Also, perhaps 4 of the MWC schools may want to play. Air Force is slated to play a 2 game season--Army and Navy.
I know that there was a bunch of political pressure that led the B1G to reconsider and I am a bit surprised that all of the schools elected to play. I thought IL, MI, NJ and maybe PA schools would sit out. Their Governors must have approved it.
So the AD at Notre Dame is just lying to people? Ok
I guess the Northwestern president is lying too?
Which is the correct answer. "If we can do it safely"
Guess they are still making payments on that sparkling new indoor practice facility by the lake.
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They all made politically correct statements when they postponed football, too. Shocking I tell ya!
This is the quote from the president of Northwestern, a man with an economics PhD from Penn: "I did grapple with that. End of the day, I found arguments of if we can do it safely, there's no reason not to go ahead and do it." Does that sound like a person who thinks this is a good idea, or like a guy who was outvoted?
I have developed a rule in life about assessing lies when I don’t know a person: I look at that person’s motives. Simple rule - what motives does a University President have in this situation?
University Presidents across the B1G have faced substantial pressure from many sources to resume game playing. Fans, alumni, media members, internal employees, and everyone else who gets a piece of the $50 million per year in money doled out every season.
Despite outbreaks and continued death from COVID-19 across the country, other conferences have decided to move forward with the facade of amateurism and play.
Getting back to motives, what would motivate a University President to lie?
1. their job stability being at stake
2. the cratering budget of their largest money maker
3. not having to confront amateurism
4. saving face
The protocols some schools are using now is what I outlined in this thread around 80 pages ago as acceptable. The only difference now is the economic reality of the P12 and B1G being isolated in who’s willing to prioritize safety and sacrifice tens of millions of dollars has hit these University Presidents.
Follow the money. They’ve done a cost-benefit assessment and determined that the economic benefits outweigh the costs associated with playing amateurs in the middle of a global pandemic. I just wish people could be honest. They can’t because they want to hold themselves up as respectable academics and moral people.
IF tens of millions per school weren’t on the line, this wouldn’t even be a conversation.
Calif., Oregon governors give Pac-12 OK to play
California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Oregon Gov. Kate Brown told Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott that there are no state restrictions on the conference's ability to resume playing football.
If the OR schools can get going, we could go without the CA schools...I know wishful thinking on my part but why not?
So the PAC keeps saying late November is the earliest because coaches wanted a 6 week camp and with the fires and testing we aren't going to start any camp before the beginning of October.
I don't know how the fires will affect all of this but here's a question for everyone, especially those that know football camp well (which I admittedly am not an expert). I know the teams have all said they need 6 weeks of camp to get up and running before the season. As long as it is equal across the conference who cares?
It's not like we are getting ready to play an out of conference game anytime soon. The first few weeks might be a little uglier than normal but I have to imagine a 3 week camp (camp starting late September/first of October - starting games 10/24 like the B1G) before an 8 game season lined up with the B1G is a hell of a lot better than 6 week camp and being the only league without a shot at the playoff.
If you do that maybe you can even convince the B1G to have the last week be a cross-conference game instead of cross-divisional like they have it now.
On top of that you should allow as much flexibility as possible with a cancelled game. Baylor lost a game against LaTech and Houston got a game postponed against Memphis, they put together a game quick. If games get postponed or cancelled, first try within conference, then give teams the freedom to find a partner outside of the conference. No reason for weeks off if you can avoid it.
I don't know how the fires will affect all of this but here's a question for everyone, especially those that know football camp well (which I admittedly am not an expert). I know the teams have all said they need 6 weeks of camp to get up and running before the season. As long as it is equal across the conference who cares?
It's not like we are getting ready to play an out of conference game anytime soon. The first few weeks might be a little uglier than normal but I have to imagine a 3 week camp (camp starting late September/first of October - starting games 10/24 like the B1G) before an 8 game season lined up with the B1G is a hell of a lot better than 6 week camp and being the only league without a shot at the playoff.
If you do that maybe you can even convince the B1G to have the last week be a cross-conference game instead of cross-divisional like they have it now.
On top of that you should allow as much flexibility as possible with a cancelled game. Baylor lost a game against LaTech and Houston got a game postponed against Memphis, they put together a game quick. If games get postponed or cancelled, first try within conference, then give teams the freedom to find a partner outside of the conference. No reason for weeks off if you can avoid it.
"See, the smartest university Presidents agree with my assessment! Football is NOT SAFE"
<Same University President reverses course after conducting more research>
"They're either lying because of money, or they must have been outvoted!"
<Same University President reverses course after conducting more research>
"They're either lying because of money, or they must have been outvoted!"
Most players are not anywhere near game shape. Several schools in the conference didn’t have (m)any spring practices missing out on part of their installs and self scouting. If there’s to be a P12 season, teams need this camp to allow players to get back closer to mental/physical readiness to play.
Wait. there's nothing in rules preventing playing but something preventing practicing!?!?!?
Someone is or has been spreading fake news around what CA regs really say.
The professional sports teams were granted permission to practice in California and colleges were not included in that. It’s been well documented and followed for a while now.
There can't be a difference between practicing and playing. That tweet from Wilner seems to suggest nobody in CA is on the same page with the rules.
Holy ****. What. The. ****.
You can go find the articles from the summer where he granted permission for the professional sports teams to practice play and left out the college teams. Oregon governor did the same thing and came out today saying they look forward to talking with the schools about their protocols to grant them access. Seems like silly politics from newsome to me
In fairness to Scott, he said that they "don't have approval from state or local public health officials to start contact practice". However mandates in certain counties (like LA) are not allowing it.