So I would think it would be an NCAA violation to force out the general student population but allow athletes to remain in dorms? I don't see how they can say they are treating both groups the same.
Students can’t live together in a dorm, but football is safe!
My comment was sarcastic given that people on this page still think football players are students first when all of the actual students have to go home. My solution from the beginning was always to bubble the players and ramp up testing because they’re not really students first.Good point. With no students on campus, college football has a much higher chance of being played and is safer given the frequent testing of players and staff.
May be true, but I feel for college administrators who have to make the case to the parents and legislature that all the kids have to go home but football is a-okFrankly, I believe sports programs will protect themselves very well if no other students & social activities variables are present.
100% online education probably could save all the seasons. Most sports have under 25 people involved & football has the resources to manage the 150-200 people involved.
When you join bubbles, they usually pop.My comment was sarcastic given that people on this page still think football players are students first when all of the actual students have to go home. My solution from the beginning was always to bubble the players and ramp up testing because they’re not really students first.
Of course. I don't see how "not playing football" gets us to that endpoint, though. Not seeing the connection.Would losing one autumn of college football be worth it if we made progress on healing this nation and improving our race relations in this country?
I actually think it would be pretty simple. “Student athletes were here for a couple of months before other students came back and acted responsibly with the guidelines we gave them which resulted in low covid numbers. We invited students back and within two weeks had to shut things down because they acted irresponsibly. If that same thing happens with student athletes we will make the same decision”May be true, but I feel for college administrators who have to make the case to the parents and legislature that all the kids have to go home but football is a-ok
I hope not. But the show must go on!When you join bubbles, they usually pop.
Goooooood luck!I actually think it would be pretty simple. “Student athletes were here for a couple of months before other students came back and acted responsibly with the guidelines we gave them which resulted in low covid numbers. We invited students back and within two weeks had to shut things down because they acted irresponsibly. If that same thing happens with student athletes we will make the same decision”
I actually think it would be pretty simple. “Student athletes were here for a couple of months before other students came back and acted responsibly with the guidelines we gave them which resulted in low covid numbers. We invited students back and within two weeks had to shut things down because they acted irresponsibly. If that same thing happens with student athletes we will make the same decision”
Agreed.I was thinking a little more about the issue of football pressing on, in spite of students going home. Right or wrong (I know there is a ton of $$ in college football and many AD's want to play), it also occurred to me that for many graduates and even folks that live in or near a college town, the football team is a on-going connection, between the school, its graduates, and its fans; which depending on the individual can be really strong. Although some schools may not have tons of on-campus students in the fall or even the spring, the playing of college football, presuming it can be reasonably safe; can be a positive for many associated with a school in terms of keeping that connection strong.
I'm not necessarily advocating one way or another for fall or spring football; nor that one should ignore the safety concerns; but more pointing out that the connection exists.
But they already are right? They participate in ncaa sanctioned athletic competitions while the rest dont. They already stay over summer, thanksgiving and winter break in many cases while most others don’t.That whole statement becomes problematic because you are purposely separating the student athletes from the rest of the student body.
Players are in perfect position to demand pay.My comment was sarcastic given that people on this page still think football players are students first when all of the actual students have to go home. My solution from the beginning was always to bubble the players and ramp up testing because they’re not really students first.
LSU, hold my beer.I actually think it would be pretty simple. “Student athletes were here for a couple of months before other students came back and acted responsibly with the guidelines we gave them which resulted in low covid numbers. We invited students back and within two weeks had to shut things down because they acted irresponsibly. If that same thing happens with student athletes we will make the same decision”
I’m mostly talking about how the student athletes did a good job before students came back to campus. Since those students have come back it has all gone to hell.LSU, hold my beer.
Ha. These Schools have obviously shown they have no problem doing this.May be true, but I feel for college administrators who have to make the case to the parents and legislature that all the kids have to go home but football is a-ok
So, inertia? I think someone's gambling addiction is showing.I hope not. But the show must go on!
Dude. Sarcasm. Seriously. Do you read my posts on this site or do you just cherry pick what you want to think of them and then react?So, inertia? I think someone's gambling addiction is showing.
I realize that I have little credibility on this subject with Allbuffs, but in @zbuff 's defense, there were two sentences in your post. It appears you meant one to be sarcastic and the other literal, yet used the same font for both.Dude. Sarcasm. Seriously. Do you read my posts on this site or do you just cherry pick what you want to think of them and then react?
I appreciate your willingness to defend him, but two things are happening here: 1. He has previously diagnosed me with a mental illness without the credentials or knowledge to do so. He reiterated it here. 2. I’ve stated my positions in the thread and even clarified when someone agreed with a sarcastic statement. He chose to insert himself in the conversation ignoring the context of my positions WRT revenue athlete pay and the silliness of amateurs playing in a pandemic.I realize that I have little credibility on this subject with Allbuffs, but in @zbuff 's defense, there were two sentences in your post. It appears you meant one to be sarcastic and the other literal, yet used the same font for both.
Sarcasm doesn't convey well in digital type. Learning that on Allbuffs is an inexpensive lesson (vs a work email chain)
OU had an entire position group out with COVID. I believe they are going to have a season and even positive tests mid season will not stop it
Exactly. Those clinging on to the hope they will cancel are just wishing at this point. We just have to hope nothing serious comes of this with long term health or a death of a player.And they are still practicing and moving forward, haven't even hit pause. This has changed my thinking. I assumed they would either push to spring before the first game actually played or cancel the season once a big outbreak happened. This has me thinking that unless something truly horrible happens (somebody ends up in a hospital close to death or worse) they are going to power on.
Right back atcha. Dude.Dude. Sarcasm. Seriously. Do you read my posts on this site or do you just cherry pick what you want to think of them and then react?
Pretty sure Texas Tech had 21 positive tests and kept practicing.And they are still practicing and moving forward, haven't even hit pause. This has changed my thinking. I assumed they would either push to spring before the first game actually played or cancel the season once a big outbreak happened. This has me thinking that unless something truly horrible happens (somebody ends up in a hospital close to death or worse) they are going to power on.
Something tells me a positive test from Saban, Dabo, Riley, etc is unlikely to be made public unless they fall seriously ill and physically can't coach.Players are interchangeable for the schools, but coaches are not at all.
That whole statement becomes problematic because you are purposely separating the student athletes from the rest of the student body.