Great point!
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2020 CU football season POSTPONED until Nov 6th?
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Great point!
ahoelsken
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Why did I get this vision of Ohio State getting into the CFP after handing Nebraska 9 straight 56-10 type losses after reading this post?
somebody
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Piling on is never nice.
somebody
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Iowa State backtracking.
www.espn.com
Iowa State backtracks, says no fans for opener
Iowa State has reversed course and says that it will no longer have fans at the opening football game.
So far, so good.
Report: Central Arkansas reports no positive tests for COVID-19 after playing in season-opening game
Good news from Central Arkansas.saturdaytradition.com
Wasn't sure where to put this
@hokiehead I see where Raheem Blackshear won his appeal for immediate eligibility this year, a dynamic RB/WR who earned All-B1G honorable mention in 2018 despite Rutgers going 1-11/0-9. Also, the QB battle is still undecided but it sounds like Hooker definitely has the inside track having started most of the games last year although they have the Oregon dual threat transfer Burmeiester, who Fuente said is the most athletic QB on their roster and would have been a factor last year if he had been eligible and that was with Willis still there.
@hokiehead I see where Raheem Blackshear won his appeal for immediate eligibility this year, a dynamic RB/WR who earned All-B1G honorable mention in 2018 despite Rutgers going 1-11/0-9. Also, the QB battle is still undecided but it sounds like Hooker definitely has the inside track having started most of the games last year although they have the Oregon dual threat transfer Burmeiester, who Fuente said is the most athletic QB on their roster and would have been a factor last year if he had been eligible and that was with Willis still there.
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I'm excited to see Tech plBlackshear was great news. We haven't had much luck with NCAA appeals lately, so this was a surprise.
I'm stoked to watch Tech play, however, based on last year, transfers and recent recruiting, I'm not optimistic. I don't think we'll win another championship while Fuente is still coach.
Would love to be wrong.
With CU not playing I'm looking forward to watching more ACC football this fall. With no divisions and ND playing a full conference schedule it should definitely be an interesting year. ND is the obvious favorite to finish 2nd and play Clemson in the ACCCG but there's also some hype around UNC, Miami and Louisville. Not sure how good NC State will be but they drew the good fortune of avoiding both Clemson and ND with the new schedule.
Maybe I missed this somewhere but are they just testing students who have signs and symptoms or come in that want to be tested?
CU has had incredibly low #s of cases so far. Doesn't seem like it will continue.
ahoelsken
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I just want the ACC logo on the Notre Dame field for posterity
Yeah - CU has really done all they can, but it looks like it will start spiraling the next couple of weeks
somebody
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I'm of the mind that anyone who bases their actions on current White House recommendations deserves what they get. But I think most colleges/universities are aware and make their plans based on the best science available.
No offense, but since when have college presidents/leadership listened to republican presidents, especially president trump? And fyi, they shouldn't. Colleges needed to charge full tuition to survive, the only way they could justify charging full tuition was by attempting to have students on campus. College admissions, due to skyrocketing tuition rates and fees, were already teetering on a knife's edge prior to Covid.
Not everything is political.
No doubt. Still, it's a special kind of useless to make these kinds of recommendations only after campuses have opened.
I'm confused here. Is this Seth guy saying that the only reason colleges brought the students back to campus is because Trump said they should? I don't buy that at all.
And secondly, is he then saying that because Trump will say "don't send the kids home" that the colleges won't? I don't buy that either.
Maybe I am missing the point, but I'm not following his logic.
On that, we can agree.
So the BIG Presidents are supposedly going to re-vote tomorrow or Saturday on the whether to have a season or not.
Woah. SEC has had how many guys test positive now?
Reading up on myocarditis, from what I can gather, the long term effects are minimal. It typically works itself out all on its own. But short term, it would effectively put an athlete on the shelf for a year. I don’t know how many B1G players have tested positive for Covid, but assuming the number is somewhere around 100 (a total guess used for convenience sake), that would put 35 athletes out of the game for another year. The SEC has almost certainly had more cases than the B1G, just based on overall case numbers in the states involved (Florida, Texas, Georgia).
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but what am I carrying on about? The SEC doesn’t care one bit about what happens to the players. They talk about protecting their future in the guise of helping them get drafted, but ain’t nobody getting drafted who can’t suit up for at least a year.
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but what am I carrying on about? The SEC doesn’t care one bit about what happens to the players. They talk about protecting their future in the guise of helping them get drafted, but ain’t nobody getting drafted who can’t suit up for at least a year.
Potential arrhythmias seems dangerous... also this:
Understanding Myocarditis – Myocarditis Foundation
Learn more about myocarditis, an inflammatory response that attacks the heart muscle leading to cardiac dysfunction, heart failure and sudden death.
www.myocarditisfoundation.org
Can one of you who are against them playing this fall share your thoughts on something.
You are completely fine shelling out money to watch these kids concuss themselves into CTE, which will have a much greater impact on them physically and emotionally, but you draw the line at something they more than likely won't even know they have and recover from completely?
I'm as conflicted as everyone else and I'm just wondering how we rationalize that.
You are completely fine shelling out money to watch these kids concuss themselves into CTE, which will have a much greater impact on them physically and emotionally, but you draw the line at something they more than likely won't even know they have and recover from completely?
I'm as conflicted as everyone else and I'm just wondering how we rationalize that.
One is an injury due to the inherent risks of the game, the other is a preventable illness that has nothing to do with the game. Also, spreading the disease affects more than the players.
I wouldn't say i'm 'completely fine', but getting CTE is really a risk for the individual. Covid, on the other-hand, is part of a global pandemic that has kill nearly 190k people in the US alone. Getting Covid isn't just about the individual, it is about contributing to the spread through the rest of the University and the rest of the general population.
Finally, these are unpaid student-athletes, so it seems even more irresponsible.
That is why I'm resistant
To me there are a couple big differences. Concussion testing, research and funding is a lot better than anything these universities are doing in terms of covid right now because it is so new and there are so many unknowns. The complaints I have heard from players regarding concussions isn’t really the risk as much as the data was hidden from them so they felt lied to. Most of them say they still would have played knowing the facts back when they first started. The biggest issue I see is the unknown of what it does to the heart of high performance athletes. I got tested yesterday and they specifically asked me about my workout routine, which I said was a heavy workload (no where near these athletes though) and she said that is something they will want to monitor if my test results come back positive.
It makes me mad when people keep saying “this virus doesn’t hurt young people” which is definitely true for a lot of them but these are high performance athletes that are already putting a ton of stress on their hearts and lungs so begin with, and that is definitely amplified with these 300 pound plus lineman in football that are already at a higher risk of heart issues.
so basically I think there are way more answers with concussions than I do this virus just because of how new it is to everyone.
Yeah, I'm grappling with the morality of it all and I'm having a hard time making it all add up.
My thought is if the student athlete is quarantined and understands the risks, let them make their own decision. It's not as if not playing football will somehow stop them from contracting or spreading the virus. That situation would be a no-brainer. But at the end of the day, Covid seems to pale in comparison with a lot of the risk and harm we ask these young men to put themselves in each Saturday.
To your last point, there are a lot of unpaid athletes we see come through Folsom that will have their longterm health absolutely impacted by the hits we watch each Saturday- Addison Gillam and Ryan Moeller come to mind in recent years. Yet, here we are.
Thanks I agree with a lot of what you said. I don't put as much weight on the concussion testing as you do, though. It identifies a problem for which there currently is no remedy. How do you fix repeated head trauma? We see athletes like Salaam and Seau succumb to CTE, and for those that don't take that route, they report that their life is basically never the same. So a lot of unknowns there as well, and as far as what we do know, it's not good.
If I gave you the choice right now between CTE or Covid, which would you take?