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I figured Big Jim was correct, but to give me something to think about related to sports, here are the top 10 QBs in QBR from last year, along with which college they attended:
Your reasoning for discounting Tua was because he played with a ton of talent around him.
He did have some great talent on that team but so did Burrow and we aren't hearing that argument about him (Fromm as well.)
Every QB prospect with the exception of a few every so often could end up being just guys. The vast majority will. The only thing anyone is taking exception with is the idea that Tua will be a bust because he played with a bunch of talent around him, which implies his teammates made him look much better than he really was and that's not the case.
You can say that about the top QBs in most years.
Problem is, that very argument is also being used by the guys who get paid to scout him. It's an argument used every year to downgrade guys, and there is validity to it.
Yeah because all the scouts saying the exact same thing just love Montez.
Actually, a lot of scouts view Montez as a sleeper mid round pick. He has no business sniffing the draft, but you know, big arm and tall and everything gets him an invite tot he combine and that kind of praise. If most of us had the same track record of success in our jobs as NFL scouts do in theirs, we would all be unemployed.
No, not really. Just because they were selected high doesn't mean they were touted as generational, can't miss prospects. As I said, Elway, Manning, Luck and now Lawrence are really the only ones who have generally been touted as that kind of prospect. Most everyone else had at least some warts.
Montez has first round physical traits for a QB. Its not crazy at all that he got a combine invite and will probably get drafted. His work ethic stinks though. The "surrounding talent" argument is the same one being used to defend Jordan Love. He was amazing when he had better talent around him his Soph year.
I would say Montez is elite in two categories: Height and Weight. He is above average in one: Arm Strength. He is average or below average in just about every other physical metric. He is wildly inconsistent from an accuracy standpoint, has never shown he consistently knows how to throw with touch, and his mobility is very much average at best, and well below average when he goes into self-preservation mode.
He may have the strongest arm in this draft or second to Eason. Depends on how you define mobility as he's a 4.6 forty guy. His lack of footwork negatively effects his pocket mobility though. That's obvious.
