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2022 Offseason Thread
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40 time pretty good. Cone and shuttle likely more important than 40 for this position
16 reps. Gonna need to be stronger if he expects to beat OTs and TEs off edge.
Article up here that talks about the pro-day. 22 NFL scouts were on hand.
| Player | Height | Weight | Vertical | Broad | 225 Reps | 40 yd | Shuttle | Cone |
| Mustafa Johnson | 6'1" | 288 | 29 | |||||
| Kary Kutsch | 6'4" | 297 | 31" | 8'10" | 29 | 5.19 | 4.63 | 7.90 |
| Nate Landman | 6'2" | 234 | 20 | 4.32 | 6.88 | |||
| Matt Lynch | 6'4" | 240 | 31.5" | 9'11" | 11 | 4.71 | 4.34 | 7.00 |
| Carson Wells | 6'2" | 241 | 35" | 9'9" | 16 | 4.56 | 4.51 | 7.11 |
| Akil Jones | 5'11" | 227 | 29.5" | 9'4" | 16 | 4.86 | 4.55 | 7.18 |
Did Landman run the 40 at the combine?
Also, Akil Jones should probably find something other than football to keep pursuing. Those testing numbers reek of a guy who can’t let his dream of the NFL go, but also only decided to start training a month ago
bigbang2
blindslighted
Landman numbers looked better than Wells. It translates to what you see on tape. He probably will run like 4.8 or 4.7. But his strength numbers, cone and shuttle numbers show an athletic explosive middle linebacker. Landman in the 7th if he is still available. Broncos will have concerns about his durability issues. Won't hurt to be on the practice squad.
Landman ran a 4.86 at the combine. From that linked article he had this to say about it:
As the article states Landman pulled a hammy at the combine running the 40, typical Landman style still finished the distance.
Nate has to convince some team that he can get and stay healthy. Going to have plenty of options as a UFA but I doubt he gets drafted.
Wells is more likely to be drafted but if teams thought enough of him to draft him in the 4th round he would have been invited to the combine.
He could go in the 6th or 7th but this is a draft in which Edge Rusher is one of the deepest positions.
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
Guessing neither gets drafted
I'd expect you are correct. And for either one being a UFA is probably better than being a late round pick. Both will probably have multiple options and can pick the best fit for them.
Formerly_Medford
Well-Known Member
Seriously?? I always thought Landnan was undersized.
Knew Wells would post better numbers. He's a much better athlete than Nate. Athleticism was his calling card when we recruited him. Raw but stupid athletic.
SeanMSan
Well-Known Member
The last two higher profile players from CU that had/have draft possibilities, as well as injury frequency. It makes you wonder WTF was going on in the S&C and nutrition program? Granted, both players were rode hard and put up wet game in/out, but for consecutive seasons Landman and Shenault were injured for multiple games and never 100%. Plus, how many guys only played fractions of seasons due to injuries throughout their time at CU?
hopefully Turley can sort this out, and CU can recruit (and keep) depth that isn’t a major talent drop off from the starters.
Also, Wells is pretty freakish athletic wise. Those numbers (aside from the bench press) were pretty great.
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
Setting Shenault aside (he’s a freak athlete and sacrificed himself to his own detriment while at CU) injuries sustained by rank and file CU football players has as much to do with them being second-tier and under-sized coming out of high school and being thrust into playing time too early for their own good and matched up against superior athletes across the line of scrimmage than anything else.
His speed, strength and coverage concerns are not 2/3rd round talent, at all, especially inside in today’s NFL game.
silly talk.
I love Nate Landman as much as anybody, but he’s not a 2nd or 3rd round guy. He has great football instincts, but his physical skills aren’t at that level. He will make a great special teams player and situational defender in the NFL. Hopefully he gets that opportunity.
First mistake, taking anything posted by BB2 as deserving of credible discussion.
Nate healthy would have definitely had a place in the league but his limitations would move him into the lower half of the draft. A local comparison would have been teams hoping for another Josey Jewell from the Broncos. Great effort and instincts but not quite fast enough to cover most backs and TEs in the passing game.
The injuries almost certainly have taken him out of being drafted but reasonable to expect that he will have multiple offers as a UFA. Would almost guarantee that unless he just can't move anymore some team will put him on a practice squad for a season to see if he can't regain his health and the athleticism he had.
He's a day three guy because of his limited athleticism and coverage ability. His comp is Josey Jewell. Might be a 4th round pick, but his injury will probably concern
That 2016 team was good, but it was about the healthiest team we've seen in over 10 years. That played a key role. Even one injury to that oline or dline would have been devastating.
Which is making Duff’s point. If your season depends on exactly zero injuries then you have depth issues and expecting no injuries on the OL/DL over the course of a season is nuts.
This has been CU football for almost 20 years
Is it just me, or is the promotion and marketing beyond anemic (even more so than normal)?
If I wasn’t on here, I’d completely forget CU even has a football team.
Outreach, branding events, PR engagements, community involvement…. All crickets. My email is dry besides the recycled renewal email.
I should be getting hammered over the head with a jug of koolaid and reciting the spring game date in my sleep but I honestly haven’t heard a peep
If I wasn’t on here, I’d completely forget CU even has a football team.
Outreach, branding events, PR engagements, community involvement…. All crickets. My email is dry besides the recycled renewal email.
I should be getting hammered over the head with a jug of koolaid and reciting the spring game date in my sleep but I honestly haven’t heard a peep
I got a call about renewing the parking pass and Buff Club donation. I kind of laid into the poor kid who called about not seeing any commitment from the school to put out a good product while asking the customers for a more substantial financial commitment. I got the impression that they’re a little peevish about making too much noise because the optics right now are really bad. They’re just hoping to keep as many paying customers as possible because they know they don’t have much of a product to attract new customers.
Hey guys, renewals are way down, but we’re gonna prove you all wrong!
Signed,
Colorado Athletic Department
bigbang2
blindslighted
Nate Landman and Devin Lloyd were both first team Pac 12 selections in their careers. Lloyd is going in the 1st round. Landman is a 2nd or 3rd round talent. Hopefully he can find the right spot, and get healthy, 10 days to spring ball. Will be checking out the QB, DB and OL competion.
We’ve been over this. He is not 2/3 round talent. The numbers don’t lie.