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24-25 MBB Team

Been busy as hell so I haven't had the time to watch the games but I noticed the L's piling up and I'm disappointed with that 0-9 mark in Big 12 play. I saw a Da Lama post talking about Malone being a bust and I recall myself saying before this season that this team would be screwed without Malone's expected production. Well woof. If Malone or whoever replaced him at least averaged 10 points during those nine losses, the Buffs very well could have had four or five wins in Big 12 play so far.

Last time CU MBB was this bad was 2008 and Tad came to Boulder in 2010-11. I don't want to see Tad wrap up his career in Boulder like this. The combination of the Big 12 being more basketball centric with more historically successful basketball teams on the schedule and revenue sharing is probably going to push Tad towards retirement or somewhere else.
 
Been busy as hell so I haven't had the time to watch the games but I noticed the L's piling up and I'm disappointed with that 0-9 mark in Big 12 play. I saw a Da Lama post talking about Malone being a bust and I recall myself saying before this season that this team would be screwed without Malone's expected production. Well woof. If Malone or whoever replaced him at least averaged 10 points during those nine losses, the Buffs very well could have had four or five wins in Big 12 play so far.

Last time CU MBB was this bad was 2008 and Tad came to Boulder in 2010-11. I don't want to see Tad wrap up his career in Boulder like this. The combination of the Big 12 being more basketball centric with more historically successful basketball teams on the schedule and revenue sharing is probably going to push Tad towards retirement or somewhere else.
Interesting question, where do we think we would be if we were still in the Pac12? Still expect to be towards the bottom, but would we be 0-fer?
 
Been busy as hell so I haven't had the time to watch the games but I noticed the L's piling up and I'm disappointed with that 0-9 mark in Big 12 play. I saw a Da Lama post talking about Malone being a bust and I recall myself saying before this season that this team would be screwed without Malone's expected production. Well woof. If Malone or whoever replaced him at least averaged 10 points during those nine losses, the Buffs very well could have had four or five wins in Big 12 play so far.

Last time CU MBB was this bad was 2008 and Tad came to Boulder in 2010-11. I don't want to see Tad wrap up his career in Boulder like this. The combination of the Big 12 being more basketball centric with more historically successful basketball teams on the schedule and revenue sharing is probably going to push Tad towards retirement or somewhere else.
Tad's not going anywhere other than retirement. He might stay another year or 2, at most, but when he leaves he's retiring. Tad and NIL don't play well together.
 
I never doubted the accuracy of this prediction, but I sure didn't think it would be locked with four road games left. :cry:
I look at this like a 20th percentile outcome -- an edge case, but not that bizarre? It's a team *most* could see was exceedingly flawed walking into a conference of monsters. A FAFO outcome, if you will.
 
After I posted my predictions before you posted yours, it's funny that your recent predictions are almost the same as my predictions. You might as well stop too but since you are not stopping, why should I?

In today's portal & NIL world, would losing starters sting as much as it used to in the pre-portal & NIL world? Probably not.

Derrick White was nowhere to be found near the kind of awards that Elijah Malone has done especially the award that goes to the best D3, D2, and NAIA player in the WHOLE COUNTRY. That is not a dig at White by any means. I'm sure Malone was the D2 player of the year as well and in that case, he's definitely better than a good number of D1 players out there. You don't see a 6'10" 280 pound basketball player in Boulder very often and you would have better luck finding that big and tall hairy creature roaming out in the wild. Malone played in 139 games over four years with at least 116 starts.

Andrej Jakimovski has played in 120 games at Washington State. And we have Trevor Baskin, the D2 guy from Colorado Mesa, who has appeared in 93 games. He's 6'9" too.

That's over 300 games played in and over 250 career starts between three players. Yes two of them will have to adjust to a higher classification but they garnered some postseason honors especially Malone being the top non-D1 player in the country. Those two know how to get the job done relative to their competition and with that experience, they can figure out how to get it done at the Big 12 level.

Yes losing five starters and a sixth man would be of serious concern and result in a worse record for sure but we got Tad Boyle and at least half of those positions have been filled with three players through the transfer portal with a lot of playing experience. And why should you doubt Tad Boyle who just sent three players to the NBA via the draft this week? Surely there are a few other current CU players who are ready to step up to the challenge.

Over at the Big 12 Preview football thread that I created, you just laughed at the suggestion of doing the same thing for basketball. Maybe you ought to stop right now and work on that Big 12 basketball thread and present the hard numbers that back your talk I have seen from you all offseason long.

And back to the season prediction, there are at least six Big 12 games CU should win at home and then you have one at OSU on the road. That's seven wins minimum. There are four other road games that are winnable but if the Buffs can take half of those, that's NINE WINS IN CONFERENCE PLAY for a 9-11 record. And if we pull off an upset against Kansas or someone like that, that's a .500 record in our first year of Big 12 play.

Again, you were the one who were talking all season about how bad this upcoming season was going to be and that was before the conference schedule was released then you came up with similar predictions that I posted. Now just wait for the rest of the schedule and also the full schedule to see how it flows.
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I feel bad for Tad. It appears if you don't play the NIL game, you don't win much. He looks like a guy who is wondering if the game has passed him by. I am fairly sure Saban got out because he didn't want to do the NIL racket, I wonder if Tad is the same way, but stayed a year too long.

That was some awful BB last night. UU was just a little bit less awful.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, why all of the Tad retirement talk?

This team was raw and not good on paper. I thought he did a masterclass in getting the team 9 wins out of conference. I believe I selected 9 wins in the poll taken.

He had 3 pro's drafted last year. This isn't a blue blood program with 5 more four stars to replace departed talent. Give Tad two 4 stars and he will coach his ass off. Give him time to replenish the talent.

Unless I missed some commentary where he stated he is ready to retire?
 
Maybe I'm missing something, why all of the Tad retirement talk?

This team was raw and not good on paper. I thought he did a masterclass in getting the team 9 wins out of conference. I believe I selected 9 wins in the poll taken.

He had 3 pro's drafted last year. This isn't a blue blood program with 5 more four stars to replace departed talent. Give Tad two 4 stars and he will coach his ass off. Give him time to replenish the talent.

Unless I missed some commentary where he stated he is ready to retire?
There were rumors that he was contemplating retirement last year. I also heard from someone that he promised last years class he would stay for their four years.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, why all of the Tad retirement talk?

This team was raw and not good on paper. I thought he did a masterclass in getting the team 9 wins out of conference. I believe I selected 9 wins in the poll taken.

He had 3 pro's drafted last year. This isn't a blue blood program with 5 more four stars to replace departed talent. Give Tad two 4 stars and he will coach his ass off. Give him time to replenish the talent.

Unless I missed some commentary where he stated he is ready to retire?
Maybe Boyle did a great job with game day coaching during the non-conference games, but that's only part of his job. Managing the portal is also part of his job and all evidence says he neglected that last off season.

I think the retirement talk is a follow-up from recognizing he's not going to get fired and speculation of how CU basketball moves forward from this season.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, why all of the Tad retirement talk?

This team was raw and not good on paper. I thought he did a masterclass in getting the team 9 wins out of conference. I believe I selected 9 wins in the poll taken.

He had 3 pro's drafted last year. This isn't a blue blood program with 5 more four stars to replace departed talent. Give Tad two 4 stars and he will coach his ass off. Give him time to replenish the talent.

Unless I missed some commentary where he stated he is ready to retire?
Not building off of the recent success of that group of players and the new wildly positive optics of the athletic department is inexcusable. While none of us expected to be anywhere near the top of the Big12, there is no way this program should ever be this bad.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, why all of the Tad retirement talk?

This team was raw and not good on paper. I thought he did a masterclass in getting the team 9 wins out of conference. I believe I selected 9 wins in the poll taken.

He had 3 pro's drafted last year. This isn't a blue blood program with 5 more four stars to replace departed talent. Give Tad two 4 stars and he will coach his ass off. Give him time to replenish the talent.

Unless I missed some commentary where he stated he is ready to retire?
Outside of the Maui Invitational teams, our lower mid major non-conference opponents have a combined record of 82-123. We played them all on our court. There was nothing masterclass about it.
 
Outside of the Maui Invitational teams, our lower mid major non-conference opponents have a combined record of 82-123. We played them all on our court. There was nothing masterclass about it.
this is a good point. that double OT game against UNC and scraping by against Pacific and SD State, all at home. I think we all were worried back then, but maybe excited a bit by the UConn game.

your take that rebuilding years are periodically acceptable, but going winless in conference -- ever -- is bulljunk, is aligned with mine.

I hope I'm wrong, but pretty sure tonight is going to be an ass reaming with no lube.
 
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this is a good point. that double OT game against UNC and scraping by against Pacific and SD State, all at home. I think we all were worried back then, but maybe excited a bit by the UConn game.

your take that rebuilding years are periodically acceptable, but going winless in conference -- ever -- is bulljunk, is aligned with mine.

I hope I'm wrong, but pretty sure tonight is going to be an ass reaming with no lube.
We're going into Allen Fieldhouse. CU has had tourney teams go into Allen and have it be an ass reaming with no lube. Last year's team probably would have had an ass reaming with no lube. This is not the benchmark to go off of.
 
Unpopular Opinion: At least in the last few games, Tad has outcoached the opponents.

Crazy statement to make given we are winless, but watching Houston and Kansas talent/size/etc, we should have been blown out by 50 easily both times. Just imagine if he had that Talent Money available to him.
 
Unpopular Opinion: At least in the last few games, Tad has outcoached the opponents.

Crazy statement to make given we are winless, but watching Houston and Kansas talent/size/etc, we should have been blown out by 50 easily both times. Just imagine if he had that Talent Money available to him.
Crazy Kansas has the most expensive player in the portal AJ Storr playing 16 minutes a game and is there 7th leading scorer was a 7 figure NIL player.
 
CU hoops is in a tailspin right now. What do we do with Tad Boyle? I'm curious to get folks' thoughts on my latest piece

As a quick aside, I've been putting together a coaching hot board (read the article before you jump down my throat) and have about 9 names so far. Curious if there's someone that you think might be a good fit. If so, let me know. Edit: Here's the hot board. https://buffsblog.com/the-break-in-case-of-fire-cu-basketball-head-coaching-hot-board/. FWIW, think Ben McCollum at Drake could be a great choice if we need to hire a new coach this offseaason.
 
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