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Liberty Bio

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Liberty University / University of Tennessee / Cedar Hill HS (Cedar Hill, TX)

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Ht: 6'1"
Wt: 200
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Transfer ratings:
247s rating: 3* - 89 grade; #5 QB (#31 overall)
ESPN rating: unrated; #4 QB (#14 overall)
Rivals rating: 3* - 5.7tr; (#69 overall)
On3 rating: 4* - 91 grade; #2 QB (#4 overall)

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As a '21 recruit:

247s rating: 4* - 97 grade; #7 QB (#48 overall)
ESPN rating: 4* - 80 grade; #11 QB-D
Rivals rating: 4* - 5.8rr; #8 QB-D (#174 overall)
On3 rating: unrated QB

247sports Composite: 4* / 0.9375 rating / #17 QB / #143 overall

Reported Offers: Arkansas, Auburn, Baylor, UConn, Georgia Tech, Houston, Illinois St, Kansas, Liberty, Louisville, Michigan St, Ole Miss, North Texas, Rice, South Carolina, Southern Miss, Syracuse, Tennessee, Texas Southern, Tulsa, UCLA, Utah, SMU, TCU, Texas, Texas A&M
 
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Alfred91 said:
Coming from Liberty to CU would be a trip.
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less than you might think.

I worked in Lynchburg a lot during my last years managing Taco Bells*. Liberty students aren't there because they have strong religious feelings, they're at LU because that's where the parents told them to go. From conversations I heard and engaged w/ their students, they drank, smoke, and fukked at seemingly the same level as any other college students.

that was almost 20 years ago though, possible things have changed.


*the last unit in which I wore a uniform actually was a 3:1 Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Long Johns in Lynchburg -- I remember thinking "this place is going to reek of rancid grease so bad in a few years"
 
hokiehead said:
less than you might think.

I worked in Lynchburg a lot during my last years managing Taco Bells*. Liberty students aren't there because they have strong religious feelings, they're at LU because that's where the parents told them to go. From conversations I heard and engaged w/ their students, they drank, smoke, and fukked at seemingly the same level as any other college students.

that was almost 20 years ago though, possible things have changed.


*the last unit in which I wore a uniform actually was a 3:1 Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Long Johns in Lynchburg -- I remember thinking "this place is going to reek of rancid grease so bad in a few years"
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This is absolutely not aimed at this individual player because I know nothing about him as a person but Liberty University looks at sports in a very similar light as places like Baylor do or even our own local Valor High School.

They know that they couldn't buy enough ad time to change peoples perceptions of who they are. For them the best advertising they can get is winning at sports, especially high profile sports.

Again this doesn't mean that all or even the majority of their athletes fit this description but they are very willing to stretch their "standards" for some guys who can get their name in the news for winning. Guys who don't buy into their beliefs or conduct expectations for regular students, guys who are there specifically to advance their own careers or agendas.

This isn't anything new. BYU has very strict standards but Jim McMahon who was a non-practicing Catholic smoked, drank, "had intimate relations" (later married her,) and generally did what he wanted to there because he put them on the map in the college football world.

When it comes to recruited athletes I don't think that Liberty is bothering to check with players Pastors for referrences, unless that Pastor also happens to be their coach.

It would not surprise me at all if Coach Prime doesn't have much higher conduct standards for his players than what they have at Liberty in fact knowing what we know about Coach Prime I'm fairly sure of it.
 
Bread said:
Are transfer visits “official”? Aka paid by school? If so I don’t think we pay for him to visit if it’s just for funsies.
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True. But there's no way we're offering top dollar or guaranteeing a starting job considering JuJu. So I'd consider it a major upset if we signed him (and would probably mean I was dead wrong about 1 or both of my "no way" assumptions).
 
Buffnik said:
True. But there's no way we're offering top dollar or guaranteeing a starting job considering JuJu. So I'd consider it a major upset if we signed him (and would probably mean I was dead wrong about 1 or both of my "no way" assumptions).
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I don’t expect us to offer top dollar or guarantee a starting job.

But we can probably offer a decent amount plus the chance to start at the most visible brand in the country. He would get NIL deals from playing here that he likely wouldn’t get elsewhere. If he doesn’t win the job in the spring, he can leave. I’m not counting him out for coming here. I don’t think Prime guaranteed Juju the job. He said to come and compete for it.
 
Bread said:
I don’t expect us to offer top dollar or guarantee a starting job.

But we can probably offer a decent amount plus the chance to start at the most visible brand in the country. He would get NIL deals from playing here that he likely wouldn’t get elsewhere. If he doesn’t win the job in the spring, he can leave. I’m not counting him out for coming here. I don’t think Prime guaranteed Juju the job. He said to come and compete for it.
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No way Prime guaranteed him the starting job. Probably the best situation for everyone is to get a good one-year transfer in at QB.
 
Da Lama said:
Not happening.
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I don't understand why we'd bring him here if we are not interested. Are you saying he isn't that interested but we are hoping to flip him?

With the JuJu situation, we honestly need to bring in a capable starter (1 and done more likely) to compete for the job.
JuJu just turning 17, he should expect that. Manning has sat behind Ewers for two years.
Underwood the same age as Michigan, and they are going to bring in a vet to compete for sure.

Nothing worse than playing before your ready, or being forced out there.
Kid can come in and have no pressure, as the presumptive starter.

I know Da Lama has inside G2 and probably does here, but I personally think it's time to think like an elite program.
Elite programs bring in elite guys to compete all the time. Why do we act like JuJu is coming here ONLY because our depth chart is empty? None of these top kids do that. They come in thinking they are the guy, worse case by year 2. A fair shake and good coaching is what they ask for.
If he's coming here because he was promised the job, he's off on the wrong foot and I just doubt that is possible.
 
buffaholic said:
I don't understand why we'd bring him here if we are not interested. Are you saying he isn't that interested but we are hoping to flip him?

With the JuJu situation, we honestly need to bring in a capable starter (1 and done more likely) to compete for the job.
JuJu just turning 17, he should expect that. Manning has sat behind Ewers for two years.
Underwood the same age as Michigan, and they are going to bring in a vet to compete for sure.

Nothing worse than playing before your ready, or being forced out there.
Kid can come in and have no pressure, as the presumptive starter.

I know Da Lama has inside G2 and probably does here, but I personally think it's time to think like an elite program.
Elite programs bring in elite guys to compete all the time. Why do we act like JuJu is coming here ONLY because our depth chart is empty? None of these top kids do that. They come in thinking they are the guy, worse case by year 2. A fair shake and good coaching is what they ask for.
If he's coming here because he was promised the job, he's off on the wrong foot and I just doubt that is possible.
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I think the assumption is that resources are always limited and it would be surprising if we could be able to land a 2nd elite QB signing without negatively impacting other positions which seem to be a greater need. DTs are expensive. ILBs, Cs and TEs are scarce.
 
Buffnik said:
I think the assumption is that resources are always limited and it would be surprising if we could be able to land a 2nd elite QB signing without negatively impacting other positions which seem to be a greater need. DTs are expensive. ILBs, Cs and TEs are scarce.
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A good QB is too important. I feel like you got to find a way.
An elite QB isn't coming in anyway, knowing he may not start so look for experience at G5 and FCS.
This is where an elite player scouting department pays off.

I watched a couple games where a SO QB for NAU just lit things up. 13 TDs vs 2 INTs and can run the ball. Not in the portal, but I'm telling you, they are out there. Not like the kid from UK last year who can't throw, or the Vandy transfer who can't process (from what I saw).
 
buffaholic said:
I don't understand why we'd bring him here if we are not interested. Are you saying he isn't that interested but we are hoping to flip him?

With the JuJu situation, we honestly need to bring in a capable starter (1 and done more likely) to compete for the job.
JuJu just turning 17, he should expect that. Manning has sat behind Ewers for two years.
Underwood the same age as Michigan, and they are going to bring in a vet to compete for sure.

Nothing worse than playing before your ready, or being forced out there.
Kid can come in and have no pressure, as the presumptive starter.

I know Da Lama has inside G2 and probably does here, but I personally think it's time to think like an elite program.
Elite programs bring in elite guys to compete all the time. Why do we act like JuJu is coming here ONLY because our depth chart is empty? None of these top kids do that. They come in thinking they are the guy, worse case by year 2. A fair shake and good coaching is what they ask for.
If he's coming here because he was promised the job, he's off on the wrong foot and I just doubt that is possible.
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No vet worth starting for Michigan is coming to compete with Underwood. They paid him $12m and begged him to flip from LSU. He is QB1 for Michigan right now. CU is in a similar position yet many people believe Juju is the most college ready QB in the class.

We are in a new age of college ball and elite HS prospects aren’t sitting. Manning is an entirely different animal and was knowingly going into a situation with an entrenched top 5-10 starter in the country. Juju isn’t coming here to sit. He’s on the Shedeur path of starting day one.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
No vet worth starting for Michigan is coming to compete with Underwood. They paid him $12m and begged him to flip from LSU. He is QB1 for Michigan right now. CU is in a similar position yet many people believe Juju is the most college ready QB in the class.

We are in a new age of college ball and elite HS prospects aren’t sitting. Manning is an entirely different animal and was knowingly going into a situation with an entrenched top 5-10 starter in the country. Juju isn’t coming here to sit. He’s on the Shedeur path of starting day one.
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Is that the same as he was guaranteed the starting job? That there'd be no other QBs of any level brought in to compete? I'd be pissed if that was the case.
He should feel he is QB1 and his job to lose. He shouldn't think he's coming here to sit. But he should also expect some competition.


From top 10 rated class '24 per 247 - season summary for 2024 below
I compiled this from searches, could be off here or there but this is what I see:

Lagway, Florida (played in last 5 games, started last 3 it appears)
Raiola, Nebraska (yes, day 1 starter)
Sayin, Ohio State (saw action in 3 games, attempting 11 passes)
Kromenhoek, FSU (saw time from game 6 sparingly, then extensively in games 11 & 12)
White, Auburn (completed 2 passes vs LA-Monroe)
Carr, Notre Dame (no)
Noland, Ohio State (no)
Grunkemeyer, PSU (no)
Davis, Michigan (college debut in game 11)
Puglisi, Georgia (no)

Unless I'm missing something, the data does not backup your assertion. Except the dumpster fire that is Nebraska.
 
buffaholic said:
Is that the same as he was guaranteed the starting job? That there'd be no other QBs of any level brought in to compete? I'd be pissed if that was the case.
He should feel he is QB1 and his job to lose. He shouldn't think he's coming here to sit. But he should also expect some competition.


From top 10 rated class '24 per 247 - season summary for 2024 below
I compiled this from searches, could be off here or there but this is what I see:

Lagway, Florida (played in last 5 games, started last 3 it appears)
Raiola, Nebraska (yes, day 1 starter)
Sayin, Ohio State (saw action in 3 games, attempting 11 passes)
Kromenhoek, FSU (saw time from game 6 sparingly, then extensively in games 11 & 12)
White, Auburn (completed 2 passes vs LA-Monroe)
Carr, Notre Dame (no)
Noland, Ohio State (no)
Grunkemeyer, PSU (no)
Davis, Michigan (college debut in game 11)
Puglisi, Georgia (no)

Unless I'm missing something, the data does not backup your assertion. Except the dumpster fire that is Nebraska.
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Pretty much all of the schools you mentioned are blue bloods though, different situations entirely.
 
alec10burks said:
Pretty much all of the schools you mentioned are blue bloods though, different situations entirely.
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Correct. Ohio State has been able to sign multiple 4 and 5* HS prospects and then bring in Will Howard to be the guaranteed starter this year without losing any of those blue chip recruits. CU isn’t Ohio State.

Also, Juju Lewis is a better QB than most portal QBs and they all know that. Nobody worth bringing in is coming here to compete with Juju
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Correct. Ohio State has been able to sign multiple 4 and 5* HS prospects and then bring in Will Howard to be the guaranteed starter this year without losing any of those blue chip recruits. CU isn’t Ohio State.

Also, Juju Lewis is a better QB than most portal QBs and they all know that. Nobody worth bringing in is coming here to compete with Juju
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next year’s Colorado backup probably isn’t even in the portal yet.
 
buffaholic said:
I don't understand why we'd bring him here if we are not interested. Are you saying he isn't that interested but we are hoping to flip him?

With the JuJu situation, we honestly need to bring in a capable starter (1 and done more likely) to compete for the job.
JuJu just turning 17, he should expect that. Manning has sat behind Ewers for two years.
Underwood the same age as Michigan, and they are going to bring in a vet to compete for sure.

Nothing worse than playing before your ready, or being forced out there.
Kid can come in and have no pressure, as the presumptive starter.

I know Da Lama has inside G2 and probably does here, but I personally think it's time to think like an elite program.
Elite programs bring in elite guys to compete all the time. Why do we act like JuJu is coming here ONLY because our depth chart is empty? None of these top kids do that. They come in thinking they are the guy, worse case by year 2. A fair shake and good coaching is what they ask for.
If he's coming here because he was promised the job, he's off on the wrong foot and I just doubt that is possible.
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I'll throw info in Barzil.
 
buffaholic said:
Is that the same as he was guaranteed the starting job? That there'd be no other QBs of any level brought in to compete? I'd be pissed if that was the case.
He should feel he is QB1 and his job to lose. He shouldn't think he's coming here to sit. But he should also expect some competition.


From top 10 rated class '24 per 247 - season summary for 2024 below
I compiled this from searches, could be off here or there but this is what I see:

Lagway, Florida (played in last 5 games, started last 3 it appears)
Raiola, Nebraska (yes, day 1 starter)
Sayin, Ohio State (saw action in 3 games, attempting 11 passes)
Kromenhoek, FSU (saw time from game 6 sparingly, then extensively in games 11 & 12)
White, Auburn (completed 2 passes vs LA-Monroe)
Carr, Notre Dame (no)
Noland, Ohio State (no)
Grunkemeyer, PSU (no)
Davis, Michigan (college debut in game 11)
Puglisi, Georgia (no)

Unless I'm missing something, the data does not backup your assertion. Except the dumpster fire that is Nebraska.
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Point well taken from Burks. CU is in a different situation. What we don't know are the mutual expectations or plans for Juju, which Shrumer, Prime and Juju have already discussed. @Lama probably has a scoop. I'm sure there is an understanding of sorts for year 1. In the endgame, everyone wants Juju to be great CU success story and onto the NFL draft. Injuries can really hamper that.

Lagway was probably the best TF QB that played, excellent athlete however he battled through injuries including being carted off the field. He is listed at 6'3" 239. Florida needed there 3rd string QB last season. For CU, I think it is optimal if they have Juju plus 2 decent QBs for depth. Agree with whoever said we are not throwing big NIL $$$ for a QB transfer, as those will go to other positions. Personally, I would like a QB plan B that can really run/scramble if the Oline takes time to gel. We will probably find out soon what Staub decides to do. IMO, Staub may not be a bad Plan B; but could be limited based on how the Oline and running game is performing.

I like Juju coming in feeling he is QB1 with it either his job to grow into or his job to lose, however CU also needs a plan B. We do not want to Juju in a "no win," if we cannot adequately protect and/or give him time to throw--that was CU last season but SS's endured and still played well. Also, if it takes time to build into the season, so splitting series as True Frosh is always an option--not optimal but sometimes it is best for the team and developing a growing QB1. That can take some pressure off w/ more in game learning and minimize hits. Thankfully, we have a better OOC schedule, I believe 1st is GA Tech (tougher game) then 2 games where Juju could go the distance and solidify himself. This would be the dream scenario. Come conference play, the opponents will go after our QB1. They took liberties with SS this year.

Raiola really struggled the last half of the season. He is listed 6'3" 230. In game 4, he was sacked 6 times and thereafter it became much more difficult. He only threw 4 TD's to 8 INT the final 8 games. I think as teams acquired more film and they entered the conference season, they exposed him more and more. SS was a Jr/Sr and could take the hits. The 25 sacks + the # of other hits Raiola endured definitely took its toll. I'm not sure he comes back the same or a better QB next season.
 
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