What's new
AllBuffs | Unofficial fan site for the University of Colorado at Boulder Athletics programs

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • Prime Time. Prime Time. Its a new era for Colorado football. Consider signing up for a club membership! For $20/year, you can get access to all the special features at Allbuffs, including club member only forums, dark mode, avatars and best of all no ads ! But seriously, please sign up so that we can pay the bills. No one earns money here, and we can use your $20 to keep this hellhole running. You can sign up for a club membership by navigating to your account in the upper right and clicking on "Account Upgrades". Make it happen!

A really sh*tty preview of the TCU game (now with more dick pics)

I hope you are right. However, the biggest issues that plagued Lewis last season don't get fixed in an offseason.

The media that have seen the fall scrimmages were all convinced it would be Shrout and it didn't even seem close. Maybe they are all wrong?
My point is that his issues are almost entirely coaching. How do you see it and why wouldn’t it get fixed in an offseason?
 
Jason Sudeikis Good Luck GIF by Apple TV+
 
As long as Cody Hawkins or Montez are strutting out there tomorrow night, I don’t give a **** who is behind center. Just Win
 
My point is that his issues are almost entirely coaching. How do you see it and why wouldn’t it get fixed in an offseason?
He is consistently late in his reads, progressions, and decisions. From the very first TD pass he was a good 1-2 seconds late. That wasn’t a coaching issue

Last years woeful offense wasn’t all coaching. Lewis didn’t help himself when plays were there to be made.
 
He is consistently late in his reads, progressions, and decisions. From the very first TD pass he was a good 1-2 seconds late. That wasn’t a coaching issue

Last years woeful offense wasn’t all coaching. Lewis didn’t help himself when plays were there to be made.
I hope to see him play better this year, but I think I’d rather have the upside of Shrout’s arm talent even if he makes some boneheaded decisions.
 
He is consistently late in his reads, progressions, and decisions. From the very first TD pass he was a good 1-2 seconds late. That wasn’t a coaching issue

Last years woeful offense wasn’t all coaching. Lewis didn’t help himself when plays were there to be made.
I guess I see holding the ball too long, not knowing what he’s looking at as a defense, not understanding how to progress through reads (or what reads to make), as almost entirely a coaching/schematic issue.

Also, your premise is either based on Shrout also not knowing how to do basic things like that, or Dorrell starting a lesser player for reasons unknown.
 
Last edited:
He is consistently late in his reads, progressions, and decisions. From the very first TD pass he was a good 1-2 seconds late. That wasn’t a coaching issue

Last years woeful offense wasn’t all coaching. Lewis didn’t help himself when plays were there to be made.
I agree with you that he didn't help himself.

Not only was the coaching bad though but also they set him up to fail.

When he came in the report on him was above average athlete but raw and in need of development, mainly in the things you listed.

He ended up in an offense that put the pressure on him to do those specific things that he was weak at. The rushing attack at best was inconsistent, at normal was entirely ineffective.

The result was putting him in must pass situations with ineffective protection and defenses knowing he was going to throw and attacking him. Right from the start he was getting hit early and hit hard. He was running for his life and often patterns didn't have time to develop.

The result, as is often seen with young QBs who are getting beat up is a panic response shutting down the decision making process. We have seen it before at CU and at other schools and levels.

No matter who our QB is our OC has to help him out by providing a running game (or quick passing game) that keeps him out of unfavorable down and distance and lets him be comfortable when he does pass.

Big question now with Lewis is can you unteach the panic response. Guys who have been through it can look great in practice but a few hard hits can put them right back where they were.

.
 
He is consistently late in his reads, progressions, and decisions. From the very first TD pass he was a good 1-2 seconds late. That wasn’t a coaching issue

Last years woeful offense wasn’t all coaching. Lewis didn’t help himself when plays were there to be made.
I don’t disagree, but I imagine it’s very easy to get gun shy and hesitant, especially as a freshman, when every defense reacts at the snap like they know what the play is—which they clearly did.
I’m hopeful that will have the timing and route concepts worthy of a P5 team. It’s been a long time since we had that—never under Chev, as far as I’m concerned.
I think JT would be more that kind of QB, based on arm talent and the little bits of info I’ve heard from the scrimmages. I hope they are willing to pull whomever starts if they aren’t seeing the field and anticipating the throws. We have two QBs: we better not limp along with one who isn’t getting it done.
 
I think we are all a bunch of armchair quarterbacks who don’t know squat.
 
I guess I see holding the ball too long, not knowing what he’s looking at as a defense, not understanding how to progress through reads (or what reads to make), as almost entirely a coaching/schematic issue.

Also, your premise is either based on Shrout also not knowing how to do basic things like that, or Dorrell starting a lesser player for reasons unknown.
We will find out soon enough and I hope you are right
 
With great footwork!
Ehhhh…maybe.
And possibly a passing acquaintance of Wendy Bell’s.
Concussion protocol was “get yer ass back in there, so her name doesn’t ring a…dammit.
Is that a joke about FlaBuff’s stamina?
100%
I'm sure she found @FlaBuff to be a pleasant surprise as well...
I can neither confirm nor deny. No really. I can’t.
 
I agree with you that he didn't help himself.

Not only was the coaching bad though but also they set him up to fail.

When he came in the report on him was above average athlete but raw and in need of development, mainly in the things you listed.

He ended up in an offense that put the pressure on him to do those specific things that he was weak at. The rushing attack at best was inconsistent, at normal was entirely ineffective.

The result was putting him in must pass situations with ineffective protection and defenses knowing he was going to throw and attacking him. Right from the start he was getting hit early and hit hard. He was running for his life and often patterns didn't have time to develop.

The result, as is often seen with young QBs who are getting beat up is a panic response shutting down the decision making process. We have seen it before at CU and at other schools and levels.

No matter who our QB is our OC has to help him out by providing a running game (or quick passing game) that keeps him out of unfavorable down and distance and lets him be comfortable when he does pass.

Big question now with Lewis is can you unteach the panic response. Guys who have been through it can look great in practice but a few hard hits can put them right back where they were.

.
I just realized that my hope that the Buffs will grow to be a real team and be able to score points this year is directly proportional to my belief that Chev was an absolutely awful OC and coach in general.

(As an aside, people seem to give Chev some credit for being a decent WR coach, but that belies the inability of any CU wideouts to stake a significant claim in the NFL. Viska may be one of the greatest the pure talents we’ve had here, and his problem in the NFL seems to involve the basics of being a WR: crisp route running and constistantly catching the ball—things he might have been taught or coached on. Not sure what Chev was good at, beyond recruiting and his obvious fashion flare.)

SO…to the point, I have determined that I can go all-in on the Buffs potential to score some points if I can go all-in on Chev’s ability to suck. This works very well for me.
 
I just realized that my hope that the Buffs will grow to be a real team and be able to score points this year is directly proportional to my belief that Chev was an absolutely awful OC and coach in general.

(As an aside, people seem to give Chev some credit for being a decent WR coach, but that belies the inability of any CU wideouts to stake a significant claim in the NFL. Viska may be one of the greatest the pure talents we’ve had here, and his problem in the NFL seems to involve the basics of being a WR: crisp route running and constistantly catching the ball—things he might have been taught or coached on. Not sure what Chev was good at, beyond recruiting and his obvious fashion flare.)

SO…to the point, I have determined that I can go all-in on the Buffs potential to score some points if I can go all-in on Chev’s ability to suck. This works very well for me.
All of the logic surrounding the belief that the offense will be improved this year is based on the notion that the offensive staff last year was atrocious. Like, worst in the history of mankind bad. That might not be too far from the truth, either. Still have the same head coach, though.
 
I just realized that my hope that the Buffs will grow to be a real team and be able to score points this year is directly proportional to my belief that Chev was an absolutely awful OC and coach in general.

(As an aside, people seem to give Chev some credit for being a decent WR coach, but that belies the inability of any CU wideouts to stake a significant claim in the NFL. Viska may be one of the greatest the pure talents we’ve had here, and his problem in the NFL seems to involve the basics of being a WR: crisp route running and constistantly catching the ball—things he might have been taught or coached on. Not sure what Chev was good at, beyond recruiting and his obvious fashion flare.)

SO…to the point, I have determined that I can go all-in on the Buffs potential to score some points if I can go all-in on Chev’s ability to suck. This works very well for me.
Piggy backing on this WR coaching theme, I've always thought Bobby Kennedy and to a lesser extent Eric Kiesau, got the most out of the WRs they coached here.
 
Dykes isn't changing their offense because they were running that Texas Tech stuff the last 2 coordinators.....
 
All of the logic surrounding the belief that the offense will be improved this year is based on the notion that the offensive staff last year was atrocious. Like, worst in the history of mankind bad. That might not be too far from the truth, either. Still have the same head coach, though.
It was fairly well documented that KD and Chev butted heads about the offense. KD pretty much got stuck with Chev in the way KD was hired. 2020 was pretty good, so is hard to dump Chev then.
This is now KD’s offense. So we will see.
Of course, my hope of a real offense is inversely proportional to Chev’s suckitude. Other material factors certainly exist.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top