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**** bailer!

PAHI-like Logic - Everyone else does it.


But the thing is, Barry Alvarez didn’t cover up murder and didn’t run a program with allegations of over 50 counts of rape over a 4-year period.

You understand the meaning of the word "allegation", right?
 
They are not just Baylor Athletic issues. They are college athletics issues. College athletics is an American cultural treasure that is stained by domestic violence, and sexual assault. Title IX is a federal law that goes beyond the BU athletic department.

It’s not that tough of a concept to want to enjoy college athletics without the stain of sexual abuse and subsequent coverups going on.

Speaking of 2 more Baylor Baylor athletes, have you ever heard of Patrick Dennehy and Carlton Dotson? Because covering up murder with fake drug allegations is another stain on College athletics. Rape and murder. Rape AND murder.

In the end big time college athletics is about money, tens of millions, in some cases hundreds of millions, of dollars. In this context yes all schools face some tough choices in terms of what they allow from the student athletes who make them this money. In multiple cases schools have ignored sexual assault, domestic violence, as well as multiple other violent and non-violent criminal activities. Few if any have been untouched but most have drawn the line at a reasonable place in terms of what they will allow or not allow.

Baylor unfortunately (especially for the girls who ended up raped then victimized again when they were ignored or even blamed) has continued to move the line further and further back from any sort of justice or decency. In their case it is also not some short time or one time event, it has become the accepted culture of the school from the athletes up to the governing body. Win at all cost has become their guiding principal.
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As DBT and others have pointed out this is made even more disgusting (if possible) by the fact that they portray themselves as a Christian University guided by and dedicated to promoting and living the word or Christ. For Christians and non-Christians alike this should be a point of disapproval.
 
You understand the meaning of the word "allegation", right?

Isn’t that what you do regarding the treatment of Julmisse and the assessments that there is a mob mentality?

No one has been convicted of stupidity. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
 
Ding ding ding!! Winner! This thread is starting to reinforce my old theory that about half the posters here actually went to college and that half of the remaining half actually attended and graduated from CU. I do understand that most of the folks here attended crappy dumbed down public high schools, so I don't hold your inabilities to think critically against you.

Lol this guy, holy ****. You collectively said everyone here is stupid and you’re better than everyone.

Why are you here again? You should take your tiny penis and go look up superiority complex, that’s you in a nutshell.
 
Adios kids. Good timekilling exercise in the Chicago airport. Good grub and Nova game.
 
I do understand that most of the folks here attended crappy dumbed down public high schools, so I don't hold your inabilities to think critically against you.

So you were what ... home-schooled? That would sure explain a lot.
 
Patty Crawford, former Baylor Title 9 coordinator.



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Explain in detail what CU did wrong in regards to Julmisse. Bonus points if you can explain in detail how the Boulder DA did him wrong as well.

What CU did wrong was suspending him
in the first place. Didn't have to happen and in many programs it wouldn't have. BTW, my suggestion that he leave CU, and my opinion that he would, turned out to be accurate. CU is so burned by its fake scandal that it chooses to not know the difference between minor and major stuff.
 
What CU did wrong was suspending him
in the first place. Didn't have to happen and in many programs it wouldn't have. BTW, my suggestion that he leave CU, and my opinion that he would, turned out to be accurate. CU is so burned by its fake scandal that it chooses to not know the difference between minor and major stuff.
I would agree with you if it were not for the second incident.
 
What CU did wrong was suspending him
in the first place. Didn't have to happen and in many programs it wouldn't have. BTW, my suggestion that he leave CU, and my opinion that he would, turned out to be accurate. CU is so burned by its fake scandal that it chooses to not know the difference between minor and major stuff.

What are your bonafides when it comes to recognizing minor and major stuff?

Would you know what major stuff is if it presented itself? Given your willful ignorance on the ongoing Baylor scandal, I have my doubts.
 
So you were what ... home-schooled? That would sure explain a lot.

I was born in a Sudanese women's prison to a woman wrongly accused of espionage. Local
Warlords stormed the prison when I was 6 and a few of us escaped into the desert and made our way to Djibouti where I jumped a cargo ship to France. Spent 9 years toiling in a few vineyards and selling drugs, finally getting taken under the wing of a friendly nun. Her group got me to the U.S. where I spent one yeah in a Catholic school learning English and planning my escape to the Mtn Time Zone. My favorite book was the Rand McNally Road Atlas.
Long story short, I made my way to Boulder and got on at CU as an assistant janitor. Hung around in the hallways outside of a few business classes and learned enough to make my way in the American economy. I learned how to kill people in the Sudanese jail and I learned how to make a fine Burgandy in France, but as to real book-learning I just have that one year with Sister Mary Micheal. And a lot of that was just gardening, English, Latin, and the writings of Thomas Merton.
 
I would agree with you if it were not for the second incident.

My guess is that he was pretty shell shocked after the first incident and got jumpy. AJ's story is unfortunately a good argument for these kids going to college close to home where they have a friendly administration and a support group of longer term friends.
 
What CU did wrong was suspending him
in the first place. Didn't have to happen and in many programs it wouldn't have. BTW, my suggestion that he leave CU, and my opinion that he would, turned out to be accurate. CU is so burned by its fake scandal that it chooses to not know the difference between minor and major stuff.

Even after the second arrest? Come on.

You are delusional if you think CU is the only school who suspends a player under the same circumstances.

You were right about leaving, but dead wrong about pretty much everything surrounding the situation.
 
My guess is that he was pretty shell shocked after the first incident and got jumpy. AJ's story is unfortunately a good argument for these kids going to college close to home where they have a friendly administration and a support group of longer term friends.

So you excuse the bad behavior. Got it.
 
I was born in a Sudanese women's prison to a woman wrongly accused of espionage. Local
Warlords stormed the prison when I was 6 and a few of us escaped into the desert and made our way to Djibouti where I jumped a cargo ship to France. Spent 9 years toiling in a few vineyards and selling drugs, finally getting taken under the wing of a friendly nun. Her group got me to the U.S. where I spent one yeah in a Catholic school learning English and planning my escape to the Mtn Time Zone. My favorite book was the Rand McNally Road Atlas.
Long story short, I made my way to Boulder and got on at CU as an assistant janitor. Hung around in the hallways outside of a few business classes and learned enough to make my way in the American economy. I learned how to kill people in the Sudanese jail and I learned how to make a fine Burgandy in France, but as to real book-learning I just have that one year with Sister Mary Micheal. And a lot of that was just gardening, English, Latin, and the writings of Thomas Merton.

 
My guess is that he was pretty shell shocked after the first incident and got jumpy. AJ's story is unfortunately a good argument for these kids going to college close to home where they have a friendly administration and a support group of longer term friends.
Hmm. That’s an interesting thought. Wrong. But interesting. Well, maybe not “wrong” since you said “an argument can be made.” It could be, but it would be a weak one.
 
Ding ding ding!! Winner! This thread is starting to reinforce my old theory that about half the posters here actually went to college and that half of the remaining half actually attended and graduated from CU. I do understand that most of the folks here attended crappy dumbed down public high schools, so I don't hold your inabilities to think critically against you.

My public high school was full of middle class kids whose parents made $600,000 a year.
 
Lol this guy, holy ****. You collectively said everyone here is stupid and you’re better than everyone.

Why are you here again? You should take your tiny penis and go look up superiority complex, that’s you in a nutshell.

Ick. I'll let you opine about the comparative sizes of men's equipment.
 
Hmm. That’s an interesting thought. Wrong. But interesting. Well, maybe not “wrong” since you said “an argument can be made.” It could be, but it would be a weak one.

CU (even now) has a random pyramidal structure of no one having anyone else's back. The admins didn't have MM's nor George's back on the on the Tumpkin thing, and MM/AD didn't have Julmisse's back on his pushing of his stalky "girlfriend". When you work for (or play for) CU you're totally on your own.
 
I pull for the student athletes massively, but I never trust the school to do the right thing when the chips are down. It's an institutional character flaw and it's too bad.
 
CU (even now) has a random pyramidal structure of no one having anyone else's back. The admins didn't have MM's nor George's back on the on the Tumpkin thing, and MM/AD didn't have Julmisse's back on his pushing of his stalky "girlfriend". When you work for (or play for) CU you're totally on your own.
HE STOLE SOMEONE'S $700 PHONE, DROVE OFF AND THREW IT OUT THE WINDOW.
 
I think most of us can admit that the school botched the Tumpkin issue. Fining RG and MM over something that they had inadequate training for, and that both handled to the best of their ability, while simultaneously letting the one person who should have known what to do in that situation get off without a reprimand was insane.

That changes absolutely nothing with regards to bailer.

**** bailer.
 
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