Can you read? I'm really seeing why you support Baylor. And did you just try and use living in Hawaii as a burn?Sure. Where do you live, Hawaii? Yeah. I am pure evil. You are a joke.
Can you read? I'm really seeing why you support Baylor. And did you just try and use living in Hawaii as a burn?Sure. Where do you live, Hawaii? Yeah. I am pure evil. You are a joke.
The belief that their* theology did not influence their "legal" response to rape is willfully burying your head in the sand.
*"their" not "your" - don't try and play a victim card here.
Neat. Great response. Living in Hawaii suggests that you have no idea what is happening in Texas. How many miles have you been within the place that you are bashing? A couple thousand miles? Your views are driven by whatever BS you read. Who cares.Can you read? I'm really seeing why you support Baylor. And did you just try and use living in Hawaii as a burn?
Are you or are you not bigoted when it comes to religion?
You do! Cause **** bailer!Neat. Great response. Living in Hawaii suggests that you have no idea what is happening in Texas. How many miles have you been within the place that you are bashing? A couple thousand miles? Your views are driven by whatever BS you read. Who cares.
You are 100% correct. Baylor not only should have had their football program shut down for at least two years but they also should have been found to be out of compliance with Title IX and made ineligible for any programs involving federal funds until they made substantial changes in the upper administration of the school and implemented real compliance authority.As long as Baylor students are accepting federal loans, and Baylor athletic teams compete with other titleIX compliant NCAA programs, I am NOT going to drop a **** Baylor attitude, unless they are required to comply with the same freedom of information act requirements as public institutions.
Anyone read the Pepper Hamilton report yet?
I’m a Texas resident, and I put Baylor on the bottom rung of P5 programs.
I have absolutely no bias when it comes to religion. I simply point out the dangerous nature of certain religious beliefs, such as the obvious misogyny of fundamentalist religions: Christian, Muslim, and Jewish fundamentalists all share this unfortunate trait.
On the other hand, your bias towards religion, Christianity in particular, leads to you excusing all forms of misconduct and terrible beliefs.
Why not both?Oooh. Burn. I think you are conflating theology with religion.
And the fact remains that members of the legal profession are complicit in the coverup. Not sure how that constitutes my head being in the sand, nor discount my observation about how quickly some members of this board are on alleging crimes are tied to matters of religious bigotry.
For the record, I’m not Baptist, nor evangelical. Just pointing out how quick the concept of “Baptist Patriarchy” is being held out as the basis for sexual assault to be covered up by Art Briles and the Baylor administration.
I almost gave you a pass for writing Baptist secs.Liar. There you go again asserting utter falsehoods.
I have not once excused Christianity to all forms of misconduct any more than you have held the legal profession exempt from terrible beliefs and misconduct. We can go on and on all night like this.
Last I checked, the Baptist faith was created in Europe in the 1600s. And I believe you neglect to address how the Southern Baptist Convention has come forward to apologize and attempt to atone for being wrong about slavery. More and more Baptist secs are finally ordaining women pastors. And dancing is even allowed on campus!
The Baptist Religion and Baylor are not synonymous. And your notion of Baptist Patriarchy is just another broad brush bigoted notion that you spout on about ad nauseum.
Art got a fair shake, he was dirty at Stephenville, he was dirty at Tech and Houston, he was dirty at Baylor. I've met the man, he's a douche. Maybe you know him better, Idk??No need to call you names. Just curious upon what facts you base an opinion that the bad guys are gone?
What do these friends of yours have to say about whether or not Art Briles got a fair shake from the press?
I am a flawed but very involved Catholic.one can separate faith from the failings of institutions. it is difficult and painful, but these are choices that the faithful of lots of religions have had to face. these institutions are only as good as the people (read: men) who run them. they have to evolve. i say this as a pained catholic. but, **** bailer. and ken starr.
Are you saying you have access to information hidden away by bailer? If not, you're reading the same thing everyone else here is reading, but you are drawing different conclusions. Which is okay until you pretend to know more than what's been put out. If you do know more, please, inform us.Neat. Great response. Living in Hawaii suggests that you have no idea what is happening in Texas. How many miles have you been within the place that you are bashing? A couple thousand miles? Your views are driven by whatever BS you read. Who cares.
Why not both?
Legal professionals were complicit in the coverup, as were church leaders.
It's not an either/or situation - most cultural problems/issues aren't. It's sort the defining feature of "cultural." Lots of influences, religious, legal, social, etc forces.
Often, any *one* of them fighting the problem is actually enough to stop the worst abuses. Yes, you needed members of the legal profession to look the other way - and they did. You also needed members of the church leadership to look the other way - and they did too.
Remember, Baylor is a "christian" university - it has an official relationship with the SBC. The church was complicit - which means that somehow some of their leaders reconciled their reactions and policy with their theology.
There was no one in any leadership position at that university that did not share some part of the blame - including the church.
Sure. Where do you live, Hawaii? Yeah. I am pure evil. You are a joke.
I almost gave you a pass for writing Baptist secs.
Your clownish responses over the years have uniformly failed to acknowledge the obvious and admitted misogyny of fundamentalists, including Baptists, as well as the dire consequences for women and children in those communities. Who could have predicted that a religious belief that women were created to be submissive to men would lead to violence?
Jfc skiddy you are the only mother****er who ca ruin the **** bailer thread.You are in no position to call out clownish responses of others as you continue on as a bigot and habitual liar.
You elect to ignore that both of us hold a **** Baylor position, while choosing to engage in one more of your ridiculous bad faith strawman.
When I point out complicity by the Baylor legal minds in addition to Christian hypocracy, you double down on ignoring legal complicity all together in order to blow this up in to some utterly ridiculous universal indictment of fundamentalism, and then you disingenuously paint me as failing to admit to twisted your world view on religion, where you do nothing more than fault find.
I happen to be an Episcopalian BECAUSE gay marriage is supported and because women clergy are ordained. This is is the church of Mayor Pete. As an American, I have witnessed the virtue of religious freedom and will fight against religious bigotry as it exists within this, my online community.
This doesn’t mean I necessarily support or agree with how Baptist or Mormons or Jews or Muslims or Irreligious choose to live their lives. Nor does it oblige me to defend or excuse whatever allegation tickles your fancy And I feel no need to play your silly game as it related to broad brush attacks based on misogyny or racism as it applies to a congregation that neither of us attend.
Live and let live > irreligious attacks
peace.
Jfc skiddy you are the only mother****er who ca ruin the **** bailer thread.
**** bailer
I don’t think you can separate bailer from the Baptist Church. The actions of one reflect upon the other. The school is more than just a religiously affiliated college. It is a part of the church itself. I think church leaders understand that, and that’s why they were complicit in the coverup and legal obfuscation.Oooh. Burn. I think you are conflating theology with religion.
And the fact remains that members of the legal profession are complicit in the coverup. Not sure how that constitutes my head being in the sand, nor discount my observation about how quickly some members of this board are on alleging crimes are tied to matters of religious bigotry.
For the record, I’m not Baptist, nor evangelical. Just pointing out how quick the concept of “Baptist Patriarchy” is being held out as the basis for sexual assault to be covered up by Art Briles and the Baylor administration.
I don’t think you can separate bailer from the Baptist Church. The actions of one reflect upon the other. The school is more than just a religiously affiliated college. It is a part of the church itself. I think church leaders understand that, and that’s why they were complicit in the coverup and legal obfuscation.
I don’t think you can separate bailer from the Baptist Church. The actions of one reflect upon the other. The school is more than just a religiously affiliated college. It is a part of the church itself. I think church leaders understand that, and that’s why they were complicit in the coverup and legal obfuscation.
You are in no position to call out clownish responses of others as you continue on as a bigot and habitual liar.
You elect to ignore that both of us hold a **** Baylor position, while choosing to engage in one more of your ridiculous bad faith strawman.
When I point out complicity by the Baylor legal minds in addition to Christian hypocracy, you double down on ignoring legal complicity all together in order to blow this up in to some utterly ridiculous universal indictment of fundamentalism, and then you disingenuously paint me as failing to admit to your twisted and shallow world view on religion, where you do nothing more than fault find.
I happen to be an Episcopalian BECAUSE gay marriage is supported and because women clergy are ordained. This is is the church of Mayor Pete. As an American, I have witnessed the virtue of religious freedom and will fight against religious bigotry as it exists within this, my online community.
This doesn’t mean I necessarily support or agree with how Baptist or Mormons or Jews or Muslims or Irreligious choose to live their lives. Nor does it oblige me to defend or excuse whatever allegation tickles your fancy And I feel no need to play your silly game as it related to broad brush attacks based on misogyny or racism as it applies to a congregation that neither of us attend.
Live and let live > irreligious attacks
peace.
You must new to threads with SkiddyWe seem to have gotten off topic.
**** bailer.
Not really. This is just a discussion that assumes we all believe **** baylor, but there is some disagreement around the source of that shared sentiment.We seem to have gotten off topic.
**** bailer.
Not really. This is just a discussion that assumes we all believe **** baylor, but there is some disagreement around the source of that shared sentiment.
**** that guyYou apparently missed the guy who thinks baylor is fine.