And, really, it's hard to believe that Craig James killed 5 hookers (allegedly). I mean, 1 is pretty believable... even 2 or 3 even if these are only rumors and allegations. But alleging that Craig James killed 5 hookers is a bit much to consider.
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Baylor Rape HQ - (major lawsuit settled)
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And, really, it's hard to believe that Craig James killed 5 hookers (allegedly). I mean, 1 is pretty believable... even 2 or 3 even if these are only rumors and allegations. But alleging that Craig James killed 5 hookers is a bit much to consider.
somebody
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The report said something like intent to fire in accordance with his contract. So there is likely a proscribed set of events that have to occur to be compliant with that contract.
somebody
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Maybe his kid helped. Seemed like a closet alleged hooker-killer to me.
EddieCrowder
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Sing it TC
Hey, I guess if you are going to kill 1 hooker, why stop there?
Outright fire Starr, the AD McCaw, Briles, His staff, the campus police chief... Kill the program for a year or two
EddieCrowder
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Watch Pony Excess, paying players was only part of the BS at SMU. Yes it was the most widely reported, but there were other things that went down. That said I agree that it was not at PSU and Bailer level. It is however the only case of the Death Penalty which alone puts it in the top scandals
I understand what you're saying and I don't disagree. Thats what we would think would be appropriate. I think, from their standpoint, that they would prefer to do "something" that makes it look like they're addressing the problem and holding people accountable while at the same time protecting their cash cow.
So @Duff Man and @Buffnik .... Can either of you explain why this situation doesn't warrant the NCAA dropping the hammer? I understand your view on why the NCAA should stay away from PSU (I don't necessarily agree with it, but see your point), but I think there are clear differences here, including the dreaded "lack of institutional control", involving student athletes. This is a serious question; not trying to start an argument.
That's what we all want. That's program suicide, though. They really want to avoid that. They're doing the minimum they think they have to do in order to assuage the masses while protecting the athletic program.
There's a lot of folks around here that wish CU would take the same approach.
Where has nik said that it isnt warranted
no program suicide would be ending the football program, firing all involved is justified
I think there might be an NCAA issue here since it was related to eligibility of players. Same way they can penalize for grade fixing. In this case, it was interference with criminal allegations that fall under the federal Title IX. I actually think the NCAA has a pretty clear role on this one.
Maybe nik does take a different stance on this one. I thought he and Duff were in agreement on this one as well.
I would hope that CU and the people in Boulder wouldn't let something like this happen. The people who are involved in this broke federal laws and in no way should be allowed to continue with their jobs coaching football. If this was any other profession these people would be facing jail time not moving positions within the company
My apologies. I thought you and Duff felt the NCAA should stay away from this.
the proof of the spin effort is the "report". had this occurred nearly anywhere else, the full report would have been released with the victims' names redacted but all of the perpetrators and conspirators named. there would be a clear record of disciplinary efforts and actions taken, and evidence of wrong-doing, not a list of aspirational platitudes of how they intend to do better in the future.
and, yes, this is absolutely an NCAA matter. there will be sanctions. while i think they deserve the death penalty given their long history of morally reprehensible actions across several programs and the institution itself, i expect they will get something severe but short of death.
this is far from over. and, because these baileristas failed to be even minimally transparent, the sordid details are going to come out over time via the press and the ncaa investigation. they will get to bleed over and over in the coming months.
and, yes, this is absolutely an NCAA matter. there will be sanctions. while i think they deserve the death penalty given their long history of morally reprehensible actions across several programs and the institution itself, i expect they will get something severe but short of death.
this is far from over. and, because these baileristas failed to be even minimally transparent, the sordid details are going to come out over time via the press and the ncaa investigation. they will get to bleed over and over in the coming months.
Here is a chronology of events...
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my belief is it is an eligibility issue because those who committed the sexual assault wouldn't have been eligible to play
So you feel like the football program shouldn't be subject to any punishment, other than ones that are self-imposed?
By that logic, aren't all violent crimes are in play?
Can you not see the irony in CU fans all high and mighty about the BU situation? Really?
I hadn't been following CTF's posts. Thought he was making a case that it was completely different from the way Baylor handled its situation along with a different set of circumstances. I was wondering why he felt a need to bring it up.
By the way, Point Break is perhaps my favorite movie.
Great read. Thanks for posting.
Here is another good one, from Dennis Dodd at CBS stating that Baylor's status as a P5 school will seriously be up in the air at the end of the current B12 TV contract.
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PS- I can't be the only one who sees Dennis Dodd's name and thinks it's an article written by Deloss Dodds. EVERY. ****ING. TIME.
Yes. I think the university needs to be hammered for their lax enforcement of Title IX.
Baylor accepted transfers with questionable records, kept players on the team who get in trouble and covered up rape and sexual assault by football players. That is a huge difference between what happened at Colorado in the early 2000's. This isn't hard.