14-1?, they should've been in the CFP.
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CFP expanding to 8 teams before 2026 - CBS Sports
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Yes, and when the 8-4 team beats the over-hyped and under-scheduled 11-1 ACC or SEC team, then maybe it'll sink in that polls don't always know everything.
Yeah, like when #2 Nebraska played for all the marbles after getting smoked 62-36 a few weeks earlier. THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE. <sarcasm font>
BuffNut
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Had this argument the other day with a Mizzu buddy. If your the best team then win your fricken conference, i just dont understand those that argue otherwise.
Medford M.
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Conference titles don't make you the best team in your conference.
Medford M.
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8-4 teams haven't earned the right to compete for titles.
So, then National Titles don't make you the best team in the country?
What is the point of any title then?
Maybe Tenn. is the only true champion left!
This is the perfect and obvious answer. Not that hard.
NFL used to do a 12:30/4pm EST playoff doubleheader on Saturdays and it makes zero sense why they ever went away from that format. If the NFL doesn't want to work around the CFB national championship then just go up against them, some of these wildcard weekend games aren't that big of a draw anyway.
Medford M.
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Does the super bowl title mean you're the best team in the NFL? Hell no!
I hate playoff systems because the best team rarely wins the championship. I hate the idea that you just have to get hot at the right time rather than truly be the best.
That's why you can't go to 8, 16, 32 teams. Keep it small, but it has to be based on conference champs. Can't be the best in the country and 2nd best in your division
Buffalo Born
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I like the idea and it's good for college football. It doesn't take away from the regular season in fact a team can lose a game and still get in. There will still be all the controversy and everything else we love about college football. The other thing I think it will effect is the coaching carousel. Maybe we will see less changes because a team won 8 or 9 games and they were close instead of firing the coach, or a coach won't leave because they feel they can only "get in" in certain programs and sticks with where he is and keeps building. It gives more teams a chance instead the few that can make it now and don't give me anyone can make it, that's bs. There are only a few current head coaches that have won the NC and I'm all for the list getting bigger. I hope it does this year but I doubt it
Medford M.
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11-1 team should get in over a confefence champ when everyone knows they are better. Alabama deserved to be in. Not Ohio State. Ohio State gave up 55 points to Iowa. Anything else they did this year was irrelevant because of that. Buf you want them in because they won your sacred conference title.
So then what’s the point of a conference championship (other than a money grab)? You’re potentially penalizing the team for winning their division and down playing the value in making it to the game. I don’t disagree with your assessment about Alabama, but there’s definitely a conundrum about who is worth advancing and on what terms the advancement should be based upon.
I think that's my main issue with how this shook out.
In a hypothetical where Alabama had beaten Auburn but then lost to Georgia, I don't think they make the playoff despite that being a much better resume. They were rewarded for not earning the right to play. That's pretty ****ed up.
So then, you agree that UCF should be in over Alabama, right? Their record is WAY better. They never lost. Beat everyone by an average of 20+ points.
Maybe Alabama didn't play ANYONE legit, and lost to the only real team they played?
Medford M.
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No, only 2 teams should get the opportunity to play for the title.
BuffNut
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So you just wanna go back-to voting then? What's the point of any championship game if people think they know who the true champion is then does it matter who wins the fricken game, cuz if the wrong team wins then you would just say
"The better team didn't win, the other team just got hot, but we know who the better team is...how do we KNOW if they don't WIN?
"The better team didn't win, the other team just got hot, but we know who the better team is...how do we KNOW if they don't WIN?
That is such a bull**** statement. Until they play the games, no one knows who is better. The biggest problem with CFB is that humans are involved in who is deserving. Every other sport determines who is deserving based on who won. In all other NCAA sports, if you win your conference you get the chance to play for your championship. Humans decide if others are also deserving of the opportunity, but if you win, you are in. Why should CFB be different. Are those decision makers that much more learned about the game that results on the field should be ignored?
Unless everyone in the SEC played everyone equally, don't see how anyone knows who's the best team, short of a conference championship.
hawg1
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Deserving is not the choice. Best is, not most deserving. Change the charter. It ain’t happening.
I’m convinced humans can choose the four best with advanced analytics. Hard to argue with past CFP choices.
ahoelsken
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Maybe reducing the number of bowls for teams like little brother......but seeing a story like New Mexico State still shows theres a purpose for bowl games.
BuffNut
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You do realize only 2 teams do play for the title right?? The question being debated is how you whittle the season down to the 2 best teams. When season starts it should be open, but preseason ranking give a bias. Playing the teams in front of you is all you can do to make your case Step 1: play a respectable OOC. STEP 2: win your conference via a conference championship game. STEP 3: conference champions battle it out till down to 2 teams. STEP 4: last 2 teams left standing play for the title. Pretty simple really.
hawg1
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Could leave out the best. Charter says find the four best. Not most deserving. But all k is that.
Medford M.
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I'm not gonna support any system that just says, "you won your conference, you're in".
Medford M.
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You don't honestly think that, lol.
hawg1
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Advanced analytics determines best. Not perception.
Dinich reporter tonight that not a single CFP commissioner was in favor of expansion at this time.
I'm trying to think of another sport that doesn't have that exact setup for its playoff.