Deleted member 807
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Heh.
Should have qualified with "a dozen or so" in front of fans.
And changed "buying plane tickets" to "scheduling private jets."
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Christian McCaffery blows of Stanford bowl game
- Thread starter Jaximus
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Heh.
Should have qualified with "a dozen or so" in front of fans.
And changed "buying plane tickets" to "scheduling private jets."
Good Feet!
Idot Buff
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Hahahahahaha
Its all about expectations right? My expectations for CU are to consistently make a bowl game each year, no matter how meaningless it is. At some point down the road, though, watching CU in the Sun, Alamo, Las Vegas, or Foster Farms Bowl every year is going to become viewed as failures, especially once the playoff expands to 6 or 8 teams.
So that's a "yes"
No. It means exactly what I said. As a fan of CU, I don't have playoff expectations for them each and every year going forward, until they can show that they will be a perennial top 20 team to start the year.
But to your point more directly, I'd imagine that preseason CFP contender and PAC 12 favorite, Stanford, absolutely views a non-NY6 bowl game as a complete failure.
Are you going to watch the final two Broncos games?
Deleted member 807
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Thoughts on 1
- Same principles apply to Fournette as McCaffrey
- LSU and the SEC isnt our conference.
- Fournette isn't a Colorado kid with a beloved Bronco for a dad.
- Fournette is harder to spell.
Thoughts on 2
- mods are puppy guarding Justin and AB relationship with CU.
- the bowl thread isn't the right venue for McCaffrey / Fournette Bail-on-your-bowl saga
Answers: 1) SEC vs. a P12 guy from CO. Nobody really cares too much about Fournette, whereas CMac is from a prominent local family and played in the P12.
2) No idea.
Since they haven't been eliminated from playoff contention, yes. Once they are, it won't be a priority unless I have nothing better going on. I don't see the parallels in the two situations
Deleted member 807
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Once teams are eliminated from playoff contention, seems like you would be okay with players just shutting it down for the season because injury risk gets in the way of future earning potential?
Guys do that all the time. How is that different from guys who are in the playoffs sitting the last regular season game if there is no chance to change their seeding?
what's with the (alleged, perhaps) gang sign?
I think the more interesting thing is the Ford F-150 King Ranch Edition. Pretty expensive car for a dude with no job yet.
Deleted member 807
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As a fan, I don't watch NFL games where players sandbag. It's part of the reason the NFL is losing viewers. Who wants to waste time watching entertainment content that is half-hearted?
The College game is better IMO because most of the players will not go pro. The bowl game isn't just an exhibition, but perhaps the last time most seniors will ever strap it on. It's a last hoorah before hanging up the cleats. It's a chance for kids to get national exposure and make a name for themselves.
I'll watch NFL playoffs, but not late season games where the teams just mail it in and engage lowballing for draft purposes. The blatant tradeoff between either maximizing earning potential or playing with heart is just one more stain on the pro game.
Meaningless games are happening weekly. The NFL just has convinced a lot of people a lot of their games really matter. Even the wild card round of the playoffs are usually mostly non-compelling ("but playoffs!").
The amount of bowl games is the issue, not the playoff games.
Yep. We went through this media phase where the networks were scrambling like mad for any live programming, led by sports. ESPN wanted any bowl game it could get. Even a meaningless contest between a couple G5 teams with .500 or so records in an empty stadium was much more valuable programming for ad dollars than running Sports Center or some other studio show.
I think we've seen that pretty much run its course and it will be interesting to see if all of these bowl games survive. The product, and therefore the value, has been significantly eroded.
Fantasy football is the reason for meaningless NFL games being "relevant".
And I have been saying there are too many bowl games for months now, but I've mostly been disagreed with.
Honestly, elite players skipping bowl games is a non-issue, until we see one skip a CFP semi final game. That's when the flood gates open and the real controversy begins.
buffs04
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The tandem of the NFL's 3 year draft rule and the college football system de facto exploit pro-bound big name players for $$$ and publicity. At the absolute minimum the system transfers money from these guys to lesser players and athletes in other sports. I don't think that that's fair. At all.
CM is absolutely justified in protecting his future earnings. I'd call this selfish if he was a baseball player (non-pitcher) or a 3-and-D spot up shooter in basketball, or played some other sport at a position where players are very unlikely to get hurt over the course of a single game. He's a running back. These guys have super short careers already, and get cut at a moment's notice.
You could say he "owes" the school for giving him an NFL opportunity. I completely disagree. He should have been in the NFL three years ago (getting paid), but the NFL outsources their minor leagues to universities and the NCAA.
Edit: A lot of people like to say "well, he chose to go to college to play football." And, strictly speaking, that's correct. But markets produce equitable and efficient outcomes when they are competitive, and the market for the labor of 18-22 year old college football players is the furthest thing from competitive that you can find anywhere in the United States. I see no moral obligation whatsoever on the part of players to stay longer than they absolutely have to.
CM is absolutely justified in protecting his future earnings. I'd call this selfish if he was a baseball player (non-pitcher) or a 3-and-D spot up shooter in basketball, or played some other sport at a position where players are very unlikely to get hurt over the course of a single game. He's a running back. These guys have super short careers already, and get cut at a moment's notice.
You could say he "owes" the school for giving him an NFL opportunity. I completely disagree. He should have been in the NFL three years ago (getting paid), but the NFL outsources their minor leagues to universities and the NCAA.
Edit: A lot of people like to say "well, he chose to go to college to play football." And, strictly speaking, that's correct. But markets produce equitable and efficient outcomes when they are competitive, and the market for the labor of 18-22 year old college football players is the furthest thing from competitive that you can find anywhere in the United States. I see no moral obligation whatsoever on the part of players to stay longer than they absolutely have to.
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This is where my support of the decision would end. Bowl games are completely meaningless. The CFP is not.
He would get attacked by everyone and rightfully so. No problem with this in lower a bowl game. I would guess at some point, someone will do this and have no question it would probably hurt this player more so than help. Once that happens a few times, then I am afraid that will become the norm. I just got depressed. Ugh.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Meh, Stanford probably has more to gain by him being a high draft pick than delivering a good Sun Bowl performance so I think they're just fine with him using their facilities.
FlatironsBuff
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And by changing the offense he lost the commitment of QB Tommie Frazier. To Nebraska. Who then beat our ass regularly.
FlatironsBuff
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Exactly. I'd rather some CU player that is leaving for the draft get drafted than play in the game and get hurt and not drafted. Convincing kids to come to your school...they will pay attention more to how many of your athletes get drafted (and how high) than if they played in the last bowl game.