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Also, if the new format was in place it would have been Utah at the 4 spot, not KSU, as Utah finished ranked higher

1 - UGA - Bye
2 - UM - Bye
3 - Clemson - Bye
4 - Utah - Bye
5 - TCU vs 12 - Washington
6 - Ohio State vs 11 - Penn State
7 - Alabama vs 10 - USC
8 - Tennessee vs 9 - KSU
That would have been a hell of a fun playoff.
 
Also, if the new format was in place it would have been Utah at the 4 spot, not KSU, as Utah finished ranked higher

1 - UGA - Bye
2 - UM - Bye
3 - Clemson - Bye
4 - Utah - Bye
5 - TCU vs 12 - Washington
6 - Ohio State vs 11 - Penn State
7 - Alabama vs 10 - USC
8 - Tennessee vs 9 - KSU
That model is clearly flawed. The SEC doesn't represent 6+ slots. Totally unfair.
 
I get that's your opinion but teams like TCU and tOSU who had better overall seasons yet lost or didn't make it to their respective CCG's should get shoved down in the pecking order in favor of teams like Clemson and KSU who each lost 2 games? I guess it comes down to how much emphasis you put on a team winning a single conference championship game at the end of the year, or even getting to that game. I've always been in the corner that even though you didn't win your division or a single "winner take all CCG" you can still be the 2nd best team in the country.
I think the mindset should be looking at the conference championship games as the equivalent of the first round of the playoffs. The winner gets a bye in the next round, but the loser isn’t automatically eliminated if they otherwise had a remarkable season. So you are rewarding the conference champion as I think you should, while at the same time Giving teams that otherwise had a great season a second chance if they loose the cog. To me it seems like the fairest and most inclusive format you could have.
 
Kelly must have escaped out the window and down the fire escape to avoid being caught.

Waving Womens Basketball GIF by LSU Tigers
 
Once divisions are done away with in the power conferences, this will be less of an issue. Regardless, though, as long as CFB is going to recognize 5 power conferences, winning one of those conferences should mean something. Maybe the right move is to just do autobids but not automatically give them byes? Either way, until it becomes a true P2 set up where it’s just those teams vying for the Natty, there should be incentive to win a conference

That would be the best compromise. Ideally they should have a clause that conference champ has to be in the top 15 or something like that to qualify for the playoff. Granted this year was an aberration with 2 non-conference champs being in the top 4. The big issue I have with it is for those years where you get a lower-ranked or unranked team pulling an upset in their CCG but the removal of divisions will minimize the chance of that happening going forward.
 
Did you think nebraska should have played in the national championship game in 2001?

I'm a big fan of providing incentives for conference championships and linking that to the playoffs. I think it will result in better, and more meaningful games.

No of course I don't think nebraska should have been in the title game in 2001. The obvious deciding factor there should have been that we routed them in the last game of the season but under that system the computer polls were big part of the system, therefore somewhat downplaying our big win over them and when it occurred. But I don't think they should have been eliminated from the consideration just because they didn't win their division. As mentioned in my last post the elimination of divisions is a big plus for giving conference champs an automatic bid.
 
That would be the best compromise. Ideally they should have a clause that conference champ has to be in the top 15 or something like that to qualify for the playoff. Granted this year was an aberration with 2 non-conference champs being in the top 4. The big issue I have with it is for those years where you get a lower-ranked or unranked team pulling an upset in their CCG but the removal of divisions will minimize the chance of that happening going forward.
But that's the whole point of rewarding teams that win their conference, so I definitely don't agree with putting a stipulation about being in the top 15. The removal of divisions will almost entirely get rid of truly undeserving teams pulling a major upset and getting in, so I don't see it as an issue.

You clearly don't put much much, if any, weight into winning a conference, which is fine, but as long as the playoff is open to the 5 power conferences (and top ranked G5 team), I think there needs to be incentive to win a conference.
 
But that's the whole point of rewarding teams that win their conference, so I definitely don't agree with putting a stipulation about being in the top 15. The removal of divisions will almost entirely get rid of truly undeserving teams pulling a major upset and getting in, so I don't see it as an issue.

You clearly don't put much much, if any, weight into winning a conference, which is fine, but as long as the playoff is open to the 5 power conferences (and top ranked G5 team), I think there needs to be incentive to win a conference.

Yea, looking at this year's rankings for example the lowest ranked P5 champ is KSU at #9. With the elimination of divisions I think the bigger issue will potentially be a lower ranked G5 champ, this year it was Tulane at #16. But going to 12 teams they almost had to give the G5 conferences an auto bid just for inclusion purposes, just like they currently get an automatic spot in the NY6 bowls. And I would think the 6 auto bids will be reduced if conference realignment ends up killing off 1 or more of the current P5 conferences.
 
But that's the whole point of rewarding teams that win their conference, so I definitely don't agree with putting a stipulation about being in the top 15. The removal of divisions will almost entirely get rid of truly undeserving teams pulling a major upset and getting in, so I don't see it as an issue.

You clearly don't put much much, if any, weight into winning a conference, which is fine, but as long as the playoff is open to the 5 power conferences (and top ranked G5 team), I think there needs to be incentive to win a conference.
The divisions are the biggest problem. Had Purdue pulled the upset over Michigan in the BIG championship game I’d still have a hard time arguing they should be in even an expanded playoff.
 
The divisions are the biggest problem. Had Purdue pulled the upset over Michigan in the BIG championship game I’d still have a hard time arguing they should be in even an expanded playoff.
While I agree, that’s the nature of actually playing the games. In the new system, if the 12th seed pulls the upset, would you argue that they shouldn’t advance?
 
While I agree, that’s the nature of actually playing the games. In the new system, if the 12th seed pulls the upset, would you argue that they shouldn’t advance?
Of course not, but Purdue is at best the 4th best team in the BIG and the only reason they even had a chance at a conference title is because of the division format that allowed them to avoid Michigan and tOSU in the regular season schedule.
 
Oklahoma State is having a rough offseason already:









Some speculation that OC Kasey Dunn has been let go. But no one seems to have a real read on the situation. It was reported that QB Spencer Sanders withdrew his name from the portal to attempt a return, and it’s unclear if he will be welcomed back. Whole thing looks a little messy.
 
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I imagine it goes something like this "I get to keep every dollar of the $90 million left whether they fire me or not, I might as well try to win some games in the process for my next ridiculous contract."
I just can't believe they can not get someone better than Petrino, with the money they have.
 
Oklahoma State is having a rough offseason already:









Some speculation that OC Kasey Dunn has been let go. But no one seems to have a real read on the situation. It was reported that QB Spencer Sanders withdrew his name from the portal to attempt a return, and it’s unclear if he will be welcomed back. Whole thing looks a little messy.

The Duff man death blow!
 
I just can't believe they can not get someone better than Petrino, with the money they have.
The fact that their boosters and fans are the cultiest of the culty is the reason they (and possibly they alone in the P5) can get away with hiring Petrino as an OC at this point. He's a turdburgler, but the ****er can coach some offense.
 
And the only reason they gave Jimbo Fisher all that money is that he was a offensive guru who could develop QBs even though despite recruiting blue-chip QBs every single year since J.Winston, none of them turned out to be worth a darn. I may have mentioned this before....
 
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