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GuySmiley

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Just conversation between he and Ben Garland without a reasoning. He said Army and Navy are likely to be included in the “P5” group and that AFA would also be included but all three would be in separate conferences. I have no idea if they have team sources or what, but I imagine it’s more about including all the service academies instead of just two

I don't think it is expanding into an existing P5 conference, but I imagine no matter CoVid impact, other medical issues incident to playing football, and the economics of college football, I believe if there is eventual down-sizing in college football that the service academies will continue playing at the highest level. Eventually, I think it will be a P68-72 teams then Div II. The service acadamies have the interest/appeal, need the prestige, and uncle SAM pays the bills. When you look at the CSU/NM situation, IMO, there is no reason to play the game.

When I look at those teams 5-10 years down the road, when the medical costs increase and the profit is elusive, there is no reason for these two teams to play Div I football. I'm sorry to say it, but when the financial models of many teams rely on the gate + expenses/tv paid to play favored P65 teams; the smaller schools will contract.
 

CarolinaBuff

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Just conversation between he and Ben Garland without a reasoning. He said Army and Navy are likely to be included in the “P5” group and that AFA would also be included but all three would be in separate conferences. I have no idea if they have team sources or what, but I imagine it’s more about including all the service academies instead of just two

That kind of makes sense if they're considering all 3 service academies for P5. Although that takes the number above the common expectation of ~64 P5 teams (there's currently 65), not to mention other potential candidates like Boise, BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, etc.
 

GuySmiley

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That kind of makes sense if they're considering all 3 service academies for P5. Although that takes the number above the common expectation of ~64 P5 teams, not to mention other potential candidates like Boise, BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, etc.

I could see it being 68-72 P teams. You have the P5 (although the PAC 12 is not the strongest member), plus a fair number of independents. When teams go independent, I can definitely see BYU, ND, the service academies, plus a few others making a run as independents. Houston, Cinci, Memphis and SMU also make sense given the population. Boise will be interesting since they do have regional appeal. I think the # will depend on whether your team can play ND, BYU, maybe the academies each year for it to be financially feasible. If there are too many teams, I could see it becoming top-heavy and the bottom falling out...
 

TSchekler

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That kind of makes sense if they're considering all 3 service academies for P5. Although that takes the number above the common expectation of ~64 P5 teams (there's currently 65), not to mention other potential candidates like Boise, BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, etc.
I think there could be some relegation that happens.
 

ahoelsken

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I don't think it is expanding into an existing P5 conference, but I imagine no matter CoVid impact, other medical issues incident to playing football, and the economics of college football, I believe if there is eventual down-sizing in college football that the service academies will continue playing at the highest level. Eventually, I think it will be a P68-72 teams then Div II. The service acadamies have the interest/appeal, need the prestige, and uncle SAM pays the bills. When you look at the CSU/NM situation, IMO, there is no reason to play the game.

When I look at those teams 5-10 years down the road, when the medical costs increase and the profit is elusive, there is no reason for these two teams to play Div I football. I'm sorry to say it, but when the financial models of many teams rely on the gate + expenses/tv paid to play favored P65 teams; the smaller schools will contract.

Isnt there a truck race they could throw on since the CSU game is off?
 

MtnBuff

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AFA would have the most appeal of the MWC schools to a P5 conference. They have a built in national fanbase with service members.

That said in the end I don't think we end up with a P5 in college football.

With the huge money being generated by a limited number of schools and the giant gaps between those schools and even the rest of the P5 schools things are going to shake out.

We are already on our way to paying players. Players get to profit from their images, how long until they successfully get the NCAA or conference limits taken off that and we see top players being paid tens or hundreds of thousands to endorse "Billy Bob's Ford" right down the road from the stadium in some SEC state.

Then we see players demanding and getting from some schools full cost of attending including cash payments. Due to title nine that means all athletes on a campus end up getting that money.

Do you think the schools that are averaging 35,000 a game and bleeding red ink are going to try to compete with the Ohio State or Texas or Alabama? The Oregon States and Kansas and Iowa State and yes Colorado are going to have a hard time swallowing the idea that they are going to have to put additional millions of dollars athletics every year just to have the right to play against teams who are bidding for the top players.

I think we are eventually going to have a top division that is almost semi-pro that will start with a larger number but eventually settle down to about 30-40 schools. Then we are going to have a second level that will take in most of the current P5 schools not included in the top division plus a few of the top current G5 schools. These schools will have hard limits on paying student athletes. This will be 40-50 schools (and likely include the service academies.)

The rest of the G5 schools that continue to play will mostly go into a division along with some of the top current FCS schools. Competing at this level will be much less expensive with smaller scholarship rosters sizes and mostly regional play with reduced travel cost. This could be a much larger division with up to 100 schools.

Some of the lower FCS schools will decide to cut expenses and go to what is currently D2, some schools will even go to D3 and play without designated football scholarships.

In the process we will also see a number of schools decide that the expense of football without being in a higher level division isn't justified and a number of schools will just shut it down.

This all may take 15-20 years to settle out and a lot of schools will try to stay "big-time" only to find that they can't do it and drop down or out.

National TV money will be concentrated in the top division so revenues for a lot of schools will go down significantly.

The whole thing gets accelerated if/when some players are able to sue schools for damages due to injuries/CTE/etc.
 

White_Rabbit

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https://www.si.com/college/2020/10/21/lsu-football-self-imposed-sanctions-ncaa?utm_source=reddit.com

that seems sorta big? or totally nothing because it's LSU

The school is docking itself eight football scholarships over a two-year period and reducing recruiting visits, evaluations and communication after a nearly two-year investigation uncovered booster payments to the father of a football player, sources tell Sports Illustrated. The school is banning from its facilities for two years ex-LSU receiver and current NFL star Odell Beckham Jr., who distributed $2,000 worth of $100 bills during a wild scene that unfolded on the field following LSU’s win over Clemson in the national championship game in the New Orleans Superdome.
 

CarolinaBuff

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The 2020 Army-Navy Game will be played at Michie Stadium in West Point, N.Y., it was announced on Friday.

The game, previously scheduled to be played at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia, Pa., is slated for Saturday, Dec. 12. The game will be televised nationally by CBS at 3:00pm ET.

Army-Navy was moved due to “…attendance limits placed on outdoor events in the state of Pennsylvania that would not allow the entire Corps of Cadets and Brigade of Midshipmen to attend.”

 

4BienemyTDs

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Wisconsin finally has a legit QB! Not since Russell has that been true. The senior will not get his job back. 20-21 on throws, damn! Hope the Badgers beechslap the ****ers on Halloween!
 

hokiehead

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Wisconsin finally has a legit QB! Not since Russell has that been true. The senior will not get his job back. 20-21 on throws, damn! Hope the Badgers beechslap the ****ers on Halloween!
Just watched the game and through one home match against Illinois, Mertz seems to be living up to the hype. That was an impressive performance statistically, and I agree Coan is not getting his job back.

on at least two of those TD's though, the receiver was wide open.

but, yeah, bring on ****braska. a 2-0 start in an 8 game season would be huge.
 

4BienemyTDs

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Based on how good Justin Fields is and how stupid it was for Fromm to leave early that Georgia has managed their starting QB’s worse than anyone ever!!!
 

dwyermj

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Rumors of many more positive tests. Big 10 season could be a mess as a result.

Just another reminder daily testing doesn't solve everything. I'll be happy if CU can get in 4 or 5 games. I'm really interested what the week of the 7th looks like after Halloween. Kids are still going to be kids.
 

BuffsNYC

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Just another reminder daily testing doesn't solve everything. I'll be happy if CU can get in 4 or 5 games. I'm really interested what the week of the 7th looks like after Halloween. Kids are still going to be kids.

Sounds like Madison should consider the two week college student shutdown like Boulder County did a few weeks ago.
 
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