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Colorado v Arizona State - October 7, 4.30pm, P12N
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Reggie Young I believe
Scattebo is good. Bowling ball type running back who is extremely hard to bring down. We don't tackle so well, so I think this is going to be a problem. If CU contains him then ASU seems limited from what I've seen.
Although, as mentioned above, back-up QB's are our kryponite, so third stringer will probably break half of the NCAA record book.
He did and thought he played relatively well. Although, I am not sure what to take of line play from the USC game.
I think their Dline is a strength. Their secondary has been the liability.
I will dissect the game later this week vs Cal but I wouldn't overlook ASU by any means.
They started slow obviously barely beating So. Utah. First game, new staff.
They then lost at home to OKST 27-15 in a game that statistically was even. Rashada threw a pick and ASU also turned it over on downs 4 times (ouch). Rashada was injured.
They then lost to a good Fresno State (yes, Tedford is back) team that is ranked. QB2 had to play who then got hurt and QB3 had to play who also got hurt, and they had EIGHT turnovers on the night with QB4 having to finish the game.
They then lost a competitive game vs USC at home. QB3 (Pyne, who played at Notre Dame) played. They lost the turnover battle 2-1 and the game 42-28.
USC `was up 24-21 mid 3rd quarter. That's a different scenario than our comeback.
They played Cal evenly, but lost the turnover battle 2-0 and had trouble with Cal's run game.
QB situation:
QB1 (Rashada) is out indefinitely.
QB2 is former walkon Bourquet. He also torched us last year and is pretty good. He played in 7 games last year. He's a very good QB2.
QB3 is Drew Pyne who started 10 games at Notre Dame in 2022.
I've read several posts here and on Twitter that totally dismisses ASU, and that's a mistake.
Bourquet is good to go, and he's not a superstar, but he's a capable QB.
This game can not be overlooked.
They started slow obviously barely beating So. Utah. First game, new staff.
They then lost at home to OKST 27-15 in a game that statistically was even. Rashada threw a pick and ASU also turned it over on downs 4 times (ouch). Rashada was injured.
They then lost to a good Fresno State (yes, Tedford is back) team that is ranked. QB2 had to play who then got hurt and QB3 had to play who also got hurt, and they had EIGHT turnovers on the night with QB4 having to finish the game.
They then lost a competitive game vs USC at home. QB3 (Pyne, who played at Notre Dame) played. They lost the turnover battle 2-1 and the game 42-28.
USC `was up 24-21 mid 3rd quarter. That's a different scenario than our comeback.
They played Cal evenly, but lost the turnover battle 2-0 and had trouble with Cal's run game.
QB situation:
QB1 (Rashada) is out indefinitely.
QB2 is former walkon Bourquet. He also torched us last year and is pretty good. He played in 7 games last year. He's a very good QB2.
QB3 is Drew Pyne who started 10 games at Notre Dame in 2022.
I've read several posts here and on Twitter that totally dismisses ASU, and that's a mistake.
Bourquet is good to go, and he's not a superstar, but he's a capable QB.
This game can not be overlooked.
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Big Jim
WTF?
Other than the score was 42-28 and the stats were not even I agree on the turnover margin.
USC 42-28 Arizona State (Sep 23, 2023) Game Stats - ESPN
Complete team stats and game leaders for the USC Trojans vs. Arizona State Sun Devils NCAAF game from September 23, 2023 on ESPN.
Final
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | T | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| USC | 14 | 7 | 6 | 15 | 42 |
| ASU | 7 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 28 |
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|---|---|---|
| 1st Downs | 22 | 21 |
| 3rd down efficiency | 3-10 | 6-16 |
| 4th down efficiency | 1-2 | 3-4 |
| Total Yards | 535 | 353 |
| Passing | 322 | 263 |
| Comp-Att | 20-31 | 23-39 |
| Yards per pass | 10.4 | 6.7 |
| Interceptions thrown | 0 | 1 |
| Rushing | 213 | 90 |
| Rushing Attempts | 29 | 32 |
| Yards per rush | 7.3 | 2.8 |
| Penalties | 10-85 | 4-26 |
| Turnovers | 1 | 2 |
| Fumbles lost | 1 | 1 |
| Interceptions thrown | 0 | 1 |
| Possession | 28:12 | 31:48 |
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4. All the recruits.
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4. All the recruits.
I thought they looked good against USC.
I was referring to USC's defense.
Oh. Well, I was referring to ASU's line. They were getting good pressure on Williams during the portion of the game that I watched.
Has anyone ever told you that you are difficult to communicate with?
After the TCU game it looked like more of the same as far as TE production goes. Mike Harrison has been a underrated and awesome surprise.
Yup. Fixed mine as I copy/pasted and forgot to edit it.Other than the score was 42-28 and the stats were not even I agree on the turnover margin.
USC 42-28 Arizona State (Sep 23, 2023) Game Stats - ESPN
Complete team stats and game leaders for the USC Trojans vs. Arizona State Sun Devils NCAAF game from September 23, 2023 on ESPN.www.espn.com
Final
1 2 3 4 T USC 14 7 6 15 42 ASU 7 6 8 7 28
1st Downs 22 21 3rd down efficiency 3-10 6-16 4th down efficiency 1-2 3-4 Total Yards 535 353 Passing 322 263 Comp-Att 20-31 23-39 Yards per pass 10.4 6.7 Interceptions thrown 0 1 Rushing 213 90 Rushing Attempts 29 32 Yards per rush 7.3 2.8 Penalties 10-85 4-26 Turnovers 1 2 Fumbles lost 1 1 Interceptions thrown 0 1 Possession 28:12 31:48
ahoelsken
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Third. You forgot we played Nebraska.
Sean Lewis was a TE (converted QB) in college, so he has a direct appreciation for what the position can do.
The struggle is that his core philosophies on offense are to go fast and to make a defense defend the whole field. It takes a very capable TE to be on the field when they're not substituting. Basically, if it's not a TE who only subs in for short yardage packages then he's got to cause more problems for a pass defense than the 4th or 5th WR.
Mikey has shown to be that in the pass game, but doesn't do much in the run game. I think there's a huge opportunity to play immediately for a TE here who can be like Irwin was as like a 6th OL on that 10-win 2016 team. And if the guy's also got soft hands & short shuttle agility/ burst, then that would be a superstar in this O.
Mikey just converted to TE, and I could see him adding significant mass in the off season now that he’s a TE for good. Could make a big jump by 2024.
I think we have to give Brewster some credit here. Obviously we need TE recruiting to pick up but Harrison has developed into a nice receiving TE that just isn't experienced enough to block guys on the edge.
Not sure. I'm guessing they are just more comfortable with Harrison because Caleb is finally healthy, afaik.
I saw Caleb out there on special teams.
At one point, I saw him on the sideline fully suited up. Not sure if he is getting in the game anywhere though
What are we asking TEs to do in the running game? Except on the goal line when we bring in the DTs, I've never seen the TE lined up on the OTs shoulder.
SC rushed for 7.3 YPC, 213 yards overall (vs ASU)
Cal rushed for 4.1 YPC, 196 yards overall
SC rushed for 3.8 YPC, 95 yards overall (vs CU)
Likewise, ASU has been woeful at running the ball.
They had 32 attemps vs USC, for 90 yards, 2.8 YPC.
CU had 45 attemps vs USC, for 193 yards, 4.3 YPC
On run defense, CU was gashed by TCU, Nebraska and Oregon.
CSU and USC could not run the ball on CU.
Diving deeper, Nebraska's QB (Sims) had the one long 57 yard TD scamper.
And a RB had a 44 yard scamper. This came with the score 36-7.
Those two runs accounted for nearly half of their production.
Nebraska did not dictate the game the way they intended to. CU
So, outside of the Oregon debacle, CU has shown better ability to defend the run.
If CU can force ASU to throw the ball often, which I think is likely if we come to play, I like the matchups.
Cal rushed for 4.1 YPC, 196 yards overall
SC rushed for 3.8 YPC, 95 yards overall (vs CU)
Likewise, ASU has been woeful at running the ball.
They had 32 attemps vs USC, for 90 yards, 2.8 YPC.
CU had 45 attemps vs USC, for 193 yards, 4.3 YPC
On run defense, CU was gashed by TCU, Nebraska and Oregon.
CSU and USC could not run the ball on CU.
Diving deeper, Nebraska's QB (Sims) had the one long 57 yard TD scamper.
And a RB had a 44 yard scamper. This came with the score 36-7.
Those two runs accounted for nearly half of their production.
Nebraska did not dictate the game the way they intended to. CU
So, outside of the Oregon debacle, CU has shown better ability to defend the run.
If CU can force ASU to throw the ball often, which I think is likely if we come to play, I like the matchups.
That's the thing. Mostly treating it as a big slot.
Bufffan68
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ASU loves to play spoiler in Tempe...so this game has me a bit worried. We are the better team but will we play well enough for 4 quarters? Who knows with this team? The second half of USC is promising, but such a young team seems to translate to very inconsistent effort. #SkoBuffs
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