I think they’re going to play their hand. They don’t have options now, but give it a year, and maybe they get more desperate to live.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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241Volcanos
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UO-UW can always join Big12 and maybe ACC if they want. Their hands are still better than ours, but they can’t bluff if they are hoping to keep Pac intact.
I'm not sure where you are pulling those numbers, but they are interesting.
A few points that I'd make:
- A major, major issue when comparing viewership is distribution. P12N is in FAR fewer households than other networks. A few places I have seen show that ACCN, SECN, B1GN are all in around 70M households. P12N is in fewer than 20. If a game is viewed by 2% of the households that get SECN, then that's 1.4M viewers. If it's viewed by 2% of the households that get P12N, that's 400K. There's going to be a major impact on teams that are relegated to P12N most weeks (like CU).
- CU (and other P12 schools) fare much better with exposure. For example: TA&M appeared on national TV 7 times last season. The game against CU was seen by the second-most eyes of any nationally televised A&M game outside of the game where they beat Alabama. It also was a 30% increase over the same timeslot in 2019. When CU/Utah was on, it had roughly the same viewership as Florida/Florida State that same weekend. CU/Oregon also had high viewership (more than twice what Oregon/Cal did two weeks prior).
- As an aside, those three games accounted for roughly 7.5M viewers. I'm not sure how the numbers you gave were calculated (366K viewers), but I was assuming it was a per game average. I don't think that can be correct, because just those three games gave 625K viewers per game. if you spread the 7.5M viewers across 12 games. even if the formula is to divide by 2, and allocate half of each game's viewership to each school, you'd end up with ~312K viewers for each game, meaning that the other 9 CU games averaged like 88K viewers?
- I based most of my list on a combination of media market ranking and the consultant report on estimated fanbase size linked here. Of all the schools in your post, the ones estimated to have larger football fanbases are Syracuse, Pitt, Utah, TT, and WVU.
Obviously, the 4C schools have to be willing to leave for the B12, but assuming they are, they can simply tell OR/UW to **** off with unequal rev share. I also doubt the Pac 10 is staying together without some kind of GoR with UW/OR.
That’s my point: they know the Pac-10 is dead. They just want what’s left of the meat remaining.
Probably means the acceleration of "college" football programs disconnecting themselves from the institutions that they are currently allegedly a part of.
Honestly though, profit sharing to begin with would have so much less messy than NIL.
Thisuniversityisf’ed!
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NIL is the disaster I expected it to be yet somehow worse than I imagined.
Also, I’m glad you have a sense of humor.
Well, it kind of was. It was a relatively big deal on the national stage. Last time national media talked about a CU here for more than 2 minutes.
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Then the schools can charge the newly disconnected “programs” big use fees for playing in the school’s facilities. Two can play this game. In the final analysis the players need the schools more than the schools need to have “college football”. Let the Penn State football program call the Philadelphia Eagles and ask them how much the Eagles will pay them to be its farm team. And who they will play. And where. **** ‘em.
FLounder
Think Positive and life will be Positive.
Buncha idots in here.
We are the only team left in the PAC with a football National Title (AP).
we are one of a handful of schools in the entire country with a modern Heisman and Natty.
We have a top #30 TV (soon to be top #20) market.
even if we go 3-9 the next 5 years we will STILL end up in a P2 conference.
You’ve all been abused so much, that you think we are CSU.
we just gotta hostile takeover the AD and Phil’s seat
We are the only team left in the PAC with a football National Title (AP).
we are one of a handful of schools in the entire country with a modern Heisman and Natty.
We have a top #30 TV (soon to be top #20) market.
even if we go 3-9 the next 5 years we will STILL end up in a P2 conference.
You’ve all been abused so much, that you think we are CSU.
we just gotta hostile takeover the AD and Phil’s seat
Thisuniversityisf’ed!
Well-Known Member
Well that’s ironic. Washington has a national title too…
FLounder
Think Positive and life will be Positive.
We don’t recognized the coaches poll in these parts.
That's the truth and the PAC doesn't have much NC prestige left. I'm not sure if the Big 12 would be too different but you know which conference takes that sport seriously.
idk, wasn't Cal a monster in the 20s?
B12 probably claims a bunch of laughable ones. BYU claims 1984. UCF claims that one Scott Frost undefeated year IIRC
You're right. I remember that BYU winning the vote because no one had a great season and they beat a .500 Michigan team in its bowl game. UCF's was equally credible.idk, wasn't Cal a monster in the 20s?
B12 probably claims a bunch of laughable ones. BYU claims 1984. UCF claims that one Scott Frost undefeated year IIRC
I think TCU does have one from pre-WW2, too.
ahoelsken
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If we do join the Big 12, we would instantly become the winningest program in that league with the most recent natty. I actually look at that as more reason to consider that league an opportunity for this program.You're right. I remember that BYU winning the vote because no one had a great season and they beat a .500 Michigan team in its bowl game. UCF's was equally credible.
I think TCU does have one from pre-WW2, too.
If you’re into history, I’d highly recommend Mike Duncan’s “Revolutions” series as well. His History of Rome series was his first foray into podcasting and is also great if you’re more of a classical fan
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
West Virginia will be the winningest program in the conference. Idot.
Seriously? You want to pretend we’re Nebraska? We’re not going to be any better next year because we claim to be the winningest program
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
We've stunk up the place in the Pac 12, but you're right. We should stay here, keep winning 4 games a year, and keep playing on a ****ty conference network nobody gets.
Or move to a new conference and win 4 games a year.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
I'll take my chances in a new league-especially with the reason we joined this ****ing ****show off to the Big Ten in less than two years.
My point is simply that “we’re the winningest program with the most recent national title” is completely irrelevant when it comes to trying to figure out what conference to join.
Pope
"here to throw poop at my betters"
You think that means anything?
Look, I hope Colorado gets a lifeline to the Big 12, but have no illusions that you'll suddenly find success on the football field once the move happens. Your competition definitely won't be any easier.
Like the wayward son who has returned home, just be happy there's a place for you.