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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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ESPN likely outbid Turner for the evening/late night inventory and Amazon likely outbid CBS for the marquee inventory. Neither CBS or Turner care for the Cal vs Arizona type of stuff, so at that point, they're both no longer interested. The only hope/consolation is that the price for that inventory was driven up by those two networks and the payouts might be respectable. There still leaves the matter of distribution and eyeballs, but maybe they'll match or exceed the Big12 from a school payout standpoint.
One thing Forde, Dellenger and Wentzel were talking about the other day was that the Big 12 has zero marquee brands and how none really generate any hype or excitement for really any fanbases around the country, but especially out West.
Basically, would Arizona or ASU fans get excited about Houston, Oklahoma State, Kansas, KSU, Baylor, etc coming to town? Of course not, but they do get excited for Oregon, Washington, Utah and now maybe Colorado. The Big 12 is a mile wide and an inch deep in terms of their brands, and while the media revenue might end up being a little more than what the Pac 12 generates, it's not going to be so much more that the Pac 12 programs can't individually make up by staying with each other right now.
I was thinking that as more potential bidders drop out of the PAC bidding it's just going to drop the value even further. Jumping to B12 might become a desperation move more than anything else. In a conference that includes Iowa State, Kansas, and Central Florida, I'm not so sure that ASU and Arizona even by themselves aren't a brand addition, or at least a wash. And if you want to stretch your imagination even further, for a conference that had no problem adding UCF and BYU, you could add SDSU and Fresno State to a jump of ASU and Arizona without too many "lack of quality" mental gymnastics.
I just wouldn't want to see CU get stranded within a PAC 8 of Wash and OR (who both have one foot out the door), Wazzu and OR State (little sisters), Stanford and Cal (two programs flailing in several ways), and Utah, with games broadcast by a semi-reliable streaming service with B- technology and goofball announcers.
Big Jim
WTF?
Really glad this is all happening right now, it gives the Buff fans that do not want to let go of the self pity of the past 20 years a bone to chew on. Engorge yourselves while you can!
Can you either provide some more detailed cliff notes and context or the time of the podcast that discusses?
And if the media deal is disappointing, does that mean you Buff “fans” like you will disappear again?
41.50 about a 4 min conversation
it's quite a disappointing listen
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Source? Thanks.
Edit. I see above.
This probably means Washington and Oregon to the Big 10.
We need to get out of the Pac-12 right now. It is soon to be everyone themselves.
I'd be careful about jumping to conclusions. Wisconsin cancelled a home/home with VT a few years ago and still hasn't joined the ACC.
BerkeleyBuff
Well-Known Member
No, it probably means simply that Ohio State is playing at USC or UCLA those years and doesn't want multiple trips to the west coast.
I mean, this guy doesn’t know ****, but humoring it for a second, if true, ESPN and Amazon are trying to squeeze the conference and force consolidation, IMO
When did we learn Amazon is out?
Big Jim
WTF?
When Frog Preacher sez so.
It’s so funny to me how much everyone “knows” about these deals. Comical how Big12 fans and media are so invested creating narratives and drama about a TV deal that doesn’t exist yet
Ribbi
BerkeleyBuff
Well-Known Member
FWIW: Yormark, at a recent get together of donors during a KSU/ OSU basketball game, said that there would be a big announcement in "30... maybe 60, but probably 30 days" and that "we are going west."
Source: someone who was there at said event.
Source: someone who was there at said event.
Boise? Fresno?
I don’t see how the Big 12 continuing to add G5 programs makes sense for them. If ESPN is really orchestrating the collapse of the Pac 12, they’ll be after the 6-8 pac programs that bring value
Correct. Plus if I remember correctly their recent penned tv deal won't allow any G5 program additions,
What is the GOR situation with the Big 12? Feel like someone mentioned it was a huge commitment?
It's 99yrs or some BS like that
BerkeleyBuff
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Well that's clearly not going to fly with any of the Pac 12 properties. There has to be some kind of out in there for programs who receive an invite to SEC or B1G I imagine.