Who? The guy who left for the NFL?We just need to get Prime a 5 minute meeting with the B1G commissioner. Done deal.
BIG currently has no commissionerWe just need to get Prime a 5 minute meeting with the B1G commissioner. Done deal.
Quick! Let’s sneak in!BIG currently has no commissioner
It isn't a question of what we want, they are the ones who decide if they want to extend the invitation. I don't see the SEC having any intention of expanding their footprint.The way we are recruiting the south I would rather see us in the SEC
I'm shocked a guy named Dark Bohner wouldn't know this!Quick! Let’s sneak in!
Just change some patches on the jerseys and the new guy will never know
In Todd we trustWe have a few years to rebuild our brand and prove our dedication.
If we do that, I have no doubt we get a seat at the big kid table. If we fail, I have no doubt we end up on the Island of Misfit Toys
Where are we spending those "few years" rebuilding our brand? The PAC12 TV deal expires in 2024, so the league could be done a year from nowWe have a few years to rebuild our brand and prove our dedication.
If we do that, I have no doubt we get a seat at the big kid table. If we fail, I have no doubt we end up on the Island of Misfit Toys
This. USC is the one that really screwed the rest of the PAC 12. It sabotaged any expansion and waited until just prior to the expiration of its grant of rights to move to the Big Ten. USC doesn’t get near enough hate.Houston was the P12's #1 target (with TCU the most likely other) when they were looking to go to 14. Allegedly, USC blackballed it while they were secretly in negotiations with the B1G because they didn't want to talk about a GOR extension.
USC also sabotaged the B1G/ACC/P12 scheduling alliance when they announced a scheduling deal with LSU immediately after the alliance was announced.This. USC is the one that really screwed the rest of the PAC 12. It sabotaged any expansion and waited until just prior to the expiration of its grant of rights to move to the Big Ten. USC doesn’t get near enough hate.
Yeah I don’t know. Do the 4 corner programs actually increase the B12 revenue per school? I don’t see them as much different or better than the other B12 programs right now. I think Oregon, UW, Cal and Stanford would probably give it a boost, but only because the B12 inventory rises a ton, especially with late night content that ESPN desires. The value to ESPN (and Fox) might be in the consolidation of the two conferences.Even then, doesn't it seem weird that the 4 corners P12 members would increase the B12 revenue so much that the existing 12 would earn more, UO and UW are reportedly more valuable than any of those 4, and possibly Cal & Stanford are at least as valuable as those 4 since they're in the largest media market.
That's 8 of the 10 P12 members that would supposedly be worth so much to the B12 that all 12 of its members would make more than they currently do while dividing the total pie into more slices. Yet somehow the P12 is much less valuable than the B12? I don't see how this calculus makes any sense.
We were BohnedUSC also sabotaged the B1G/ACC/P12 scheduling alliance when they announced a scheduling deal with LSU immediately after the alliance was announced.
They're at the top of my hate list these days.
Yeah I don’t know. Do the 4 corner programs actually increase the B12 revenue per school? I don’t see them as much different or better than the other B12 programs right now. I think Oregon, UW, Cal and Stanford would probably give it a boost, but only because the B12 inventory rises a ton, especially with late night content that ESPN desires. The value to ESPN (and Fox) might be in the consolidation of the two conferences.
Been saying that for years...tits on a boar.We were Bohned
We just need to get Prime a 5 minute meeting with the B1G commissioner. Done deal.
There is no way the networks are going to sign off on a pro rata add for the B12 to add another G5 school in a market they already have captured. Pretty sure that pro rata clause is likely limited to 6 -8 schools in the P12 and maybe 1/2 to 2/3rds of the ACC.I don’t think adding SMU increase the revenue for the Big 12 schools. I think there’s an idea that doing some of these things could ultimately kill the Pac 12 and force some to jump to the Big 12, which would increase the revenue.
If the Pac 12 doesn’t get SDSU and SMU, then what? At that point, do Oregon and Washington say **** this and bail? Same question about Arizona schools, CU and Utah? I don’t see Cal and Stanford being proactive in anything, but the other 6 might
Didn’t they also sabotage the original B10 scheduling alliance over their Notre Dame game?USC also sabotaged the B1G/ACC/P12 scheduling alliance when they announced a scheduling deal with LSU immediately after the alliance was announced.
They're at the top of my hate list these days.
And pushed the unbalanced scheduling so that all CA schools played every year.Didn’t they also sabotage the original B10 scheduling alliance over their Notre Dame game?
Thank God @bigbang2 retired. That Twitter would basically just be a link back to his post history on here.Furk. Now we're going to have to deal with the takes getting "hotter" as you all start trying to get tweeted by Message Board Geniuses.
Disagree with SEC not wanting to expand. I don't believe it does them any good to have the B1G from coast to coast when they can also pick up some of the later time slots. If this is an arms race to the top they will not stand by and let the B1G dominate. We start winning and Prime keeps recruiting the South, I could easily see us with an invite to the SEC in the future. Obviously a lot has to happen, but I can see it.It isn't a question of what we want, they are the ones who decide if they want to extend the invitation. I don't see the SEC having any intention of expanding their footprint.
The B1G on the other hand has already stretched themselves to both coast. I could see them having an interest in adding 2-4 more schools to balance the scheduling and allow them to dominate the later TV time slots. In that case Washington would be a given for 1st pick (Seattle/Pacific Northwest market.) From there you look at Oregon (recent years top 10-20 program, solid TV ratings,) Colorado (Denver and Rocky Mountain market plus strong ratings in California and historically solid national ratings when we have been decent. Then you look at either Utah (strong program recently, SLC and intermountain west market) or more likely one, and only one, of the Arizona Schools, probably UofA giving Arizona as well as similar to CU strong ratings nationally, especially in the Southwestern US.
If the B1G doesn't happen for us then as stated before the only way I see us remaining relevant and financially competitive would be the forming of a 3rd superconference dumping all the dead weight schools, not dragging more in to take their shares of the money as the SEC and the B1G continue to pull further away in media payouts.