I see it working. Interesting that this morning Bob Thompson and Crakes (former Fox guys) are saying it can’t work, that Xfinity, Time Warner, DirecTV will push back on increasing sub fees in P12 markets despite that it’s written into the contract. I asked what their solution is but no response yet.If the ACC coalition is willing to do a shorter term GOR to time out with the Pac so they can all make short term bank while positioning for the next round at the same time, it works a lot better for the ACC members than their current longer and poorer deal. Works for the Pac, too, since it would increase money and stability.
This.If the ACC coalition is willing to do a shorter term GOR to time out with the Pac so they can all make short term bank while positioning for the next round at the same time, it works a lot better for the ACC members than their current longer and poorer deal. Works for the Pac, too, since it would increase money and stability.
Two of college football’s mid-major conferences will be joining forces ahead of the 2023 season.
The Atlantic Sun Conference and the Western Athletic Conference are officially merging for football and will be known as the United Athletic Conference going forward, the new alliance announced Monday.
Their last reported distribution was $36M per school compared to the SEC and B1G at $50M. New deals will significantly widen that gap. If I'm Clemson, it doesn't sit well that South Carolina is getting paid a lot more for media rights (as an example). Heck, Miami and FSU may be looking at UCF getting paid more than them. Something's got to give.I've always thought an ACC/PAC merger was the best short term solution, especially for ESPN. As a fan, that would be pretty awesome as well.
I guess the question probably remains, what kind of financial uptick does this bring to both the ACC and PAC? Do you get an extra $5-$10 million a year per School with ESPN getting majority of the rights? I think a close to $10 million uptick probably keeps everyone happy for a short term but maybe not
What’s the number, media rights wise only, that FSU, Clemson, etc need to see? I’d say $50-55M in order to pipe down and commit long term. If there’s unequal playoff revenue sharing that’s another avenue (not opposed to this w/ Prime).Their last reported distribution was $36M per school compared to the SEC and B1G at $50M. New deals will significantly widen that gap. If I'm Clemson, it doesn't sit well that South Carolina is getting paid a lot more for media rights (as an example). Heck, Miami and FSU may be looking at UCF getting paid more than them. Something's got to give.
More relevant though: what's the short term number?What’s the number, media rights wise only, that FSU, Clemson, etc need to see? I’d say $50-55M in order to pipe down and commit long term. If there’s unequal playoff revenue sharing that’s another avenue (not opposed to this w/ Prime).
I don’t think it’s possible to get to the $50-55M number with all existing 24 ACC-PAC schools. That would be $1.3B per year and $9.2B over 7 years. There would have to be some hard decisions made about markets and brands.
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Info from an ASU donor who's been given info in the past that has supposedly come through. Interesting to see if any of this comes true.
Sounds like mid-May might be kind of a
time table to look at. (April 28 -May 17th)
5 year deal.
Unsustainable deal.
But this is inside information!There really isn’t new news here (again).
For others reading, the anonymous letter from “ASU Money Perch” insider says that the numbers for the media deal are known, but the composition of the broadcast partners is still fluid. But the numbers still suggest an “unsustainable” deal, meaning a payout well below the figure for the Big 12.
The insider suggests several teams would sign the unsustainable deal because they either have no option (Oregon State, Washington State), are looking to bounce pretty quickly (Washington, Oregon), or they have an option but can’t get the institutional support from schools, donors, alumni (four corners).
The four corner schools will test the institutional support over the next month. If it’s there, they bounce to the Big 12. If not, they sign the unsustainable deal and warehouse themselves for a few years hoping for a better landing spot down the line.
Like I said, nothing new here. Schools will wait for options, and then decide. Haven’t we known this since August 2022?
They like fine wines here too.I don’t think ITB could handle a PAC/ACC conference. Wine and cheese coastal elites combined with crab and cocaine coastal elites is just too much.
This guy only cares about getting Oregon and Washington into the B1G. Any scenario that creates that outcome, he’ll push it. He doesn’t give a s*** about the P12 or talk to ASU donors. It’s all a self serving agenda as far as I can tell.There really isn’t new news here (again).
For others reading, the anonymous letter from “ASU Money Perch” insider says that the numbers for the media deal are known, but the composition of the broadcast partners is still fluid. But the numbers still suggest an “unsustainable” deal, meaning a payout well below the figure for the Big 12.
The insider suggests several teams would sign the unsustainable deal because they either have no option (Oregon State, Washington State), are looking to bounce pretty quickly (Washington, Oregon), or they have an option but can’t get the institutional support from schools, donors, alumni (four corners).
The four corner schools will test the institutional support over the next month. If it’s there, they bounce to the Big 12. If not, they sign the unsustainable deal and warehouse themselves for a few years hoping for a better landing spot down the line.
Like I said, nothing new here. Schools will wait for options, and then decide. Haven’t we known this since August 2022?
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Info from an ASU donor who's been given info in the past that has supposedly come through. Interesting to see if any of this comes true.
Sounds like mid-May might be kind of a
time table to look at. (April 28 -May 17th)
5 year deal.
Unsustainable deal.
Just curious if anyone has actually clicked on any of these videos ITB keeps posting. It's like the 40th time he's posted one. I know I haven't.
A PAC/ACC merger with ND added would be a game changernd to the pac.
why the F not? every other crazed theory of dumb****ery has been proposed by the fans. therefore, this is the one that changes everything.
dear truckstop 12: **** all the way off. dear usc: **** you to hell.
we're gonna win and the rest of these ****s can suck on a tailpipe until they pass out.
Makes too much sense and why it won't happen.A PAC/ACC merger with ND added would be a game changer
I'm not convinced it makes sense for NDMakes too much sense and why it won't happen.
Just skipped a dozen pages. Missed nothing.
nd to the pac.
Makes too much sense and why it won't happen.
ND won't even budge on a BIG offer so the chances of something like this happening are almost zero. An ACC/PAC would have to come up with something absolutely astronomical for ND to commit to that conference. Unequal revenue sharing would be a must. You never know and something that would be as close as you could get to rival an SEC or BIGI'm not convinced it makes sense for ND
I'm convinced the longer ND goes without winning a NC, they will continue to get marginalized but won't recognize it until way beyond it is too late.I'm not convinced it makes sense for ND
I watched one but the algorithm immediately took me to an Alex Jones video so I think I’m out on that.Just curious if anyone has actually clicked on any of these videos ITB keeps posting. It's like the 40th time he's posted one. I know I haven't.
I think they'd need to take a massive nose dive for that to ever happen. The backing of the catholic church will always make them relevant, imoI'm convinced the longer ND goes without winning a NC, they will continue to get marginalized but won't recognize it until way beyond it is too late.
Yes, they made the playoff twice, and got absolutely scorched - and their coach left in the process to a place where he thought he had a better chance at winning.