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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

Buffnik said:
I do think that sporting events and awards shows had inflated values as the old viewing model was reaching the end of its life cycle. Programming that people watched live, therefore not able to skip commercials, was exceptionally valuable. Now it looks like the industry is cutting production costs to maintain profitability of sports programming despite cord cutting and flat-to-declining viewership while still paying a premium.

I think what we'll see with tv stations will be similar to what happened to newspapers and magazines. Failures, consolidations, infrastructure cuts, sharing of original content across properties, and then dumping of assets which don't perform.
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The advertising world laments these trends. Magazines, Newspapers, live TV were where they spent big. They have data too that supports that it worked. So if they place ads on something where the ad can be skipped the data will reflect that and they will stop spending. 👈 THAT is bad news for someone like ESPN that will lose cable revenue AND advertising revenue.
 
MiamiBuffs said:
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The NBA loses Billions on the WNBA. Average Attendance is 5,000 per night and that is being generous since there is an average of three thousand free seats/giveaways. Ratings/Viewership: the NBA average game is 14M viewers while the WNBA viewership is 390,000. The WNBA salaries are relatively high compared to what the WNBA league brings in, yet the athletes want private flights, hotels, food budget, enhanced security to match what the NBA players bring in. Granted they don't make NBA type salaries, they have to make that overseas; The American Hockey League (not the NHL, talking the American hockey farm system) has slightly better attendance than the WNBA.
The quality of talent/play has somewhat increased over the years in the WNBA but when you don't have an audience and the NBA is losing so much money to keep that league afloat, it is challenging to justify the players requests.
 
InTheBuff said:
"I would not want to be a part of the PAC12. The future is bleak"

Paul Finebaum

"That league {PAC12} is very diminished. They are still in big trouble"

Paul Finebaum
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Not sure I'd be taking what Walter says to heart.

arguing with myself jeff dunham GIF
 
BuffinCali said:
The NBA loses Billions on the WNBA. Average Attendance is 5,000 per night and that is being generous since there is an average of three thousand free seats/giveaways. Ratings/Viewership: the NBA average game is 14M viewers while the WNBA viewership is 390,000. The WNBA salaries are relatively high compared to what the WNBA league brings in, yet the athletes want private flights, hotels, food budget, enhanced security to match what the NBA players bring in. Granted they don't make NBA type salaries, they have to make that overseas; The American Hockey League (not the NHL, talking the American hockey farm system) has slightly better attendance than the WNBA.
The quality of talent/play has somewhat increased over the years in the WNBA but when you don't have an audience and the NBA is losing so much money to keep that league afloat, it is challenging to justify the players requests.
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Uhhh, El punto….

over your head GIF by ABC Network
 
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The Alabaster Yak said:
I this is why the idea that the B1G can leave USC and UCLA on an island and only be looking East/South isn’t feasible. They’re going to have to expand West or risk losing them
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I was told only money matters.

You can certainly add two more teams. But Im pretty sure in basketball and a few other sports you play ALL the teams in your conference twice one home and one away. Well, until your conference gets too big for that. These conferences were set up based on geography long ago so that it was about ease of scheduling and cheap, short travel distances, sometimes by bus. USC and UCLA will now have to do everything by plane except when they play each other. Cost will be a thing but there will be a lot more missed class. UCLA is on the shorter quarters system as well.
 
MiamiBuffs said:
I was told only money matters.

You can certainly add two more teams. But Im pretty sure in basketball and a few other sports you play ALL the teams in your conference twice one home and one away. Well, until your conference gets too big for that. These conferences were set up based on geography long ago so that it was about ease of scheduling and cheap, short travel distances, sometimes by bus. USC and UCLA will now have to do everything by plane except when they play each other. Cost will be a thing but there will be a lot more missed class. UCLA is on the shorter quarters system as well.
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I think the payday is going to be nice for those schools over the next 7 years, but once reality of the logistical nightmare sets in, they are going to be lobbying hard to have at least 2-4 more western region schools added, or they might even try to see what a media deal would like coming back to the Pac and maybe looking at adding some current Big 12 members.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
I this is why the idea that the B1G can leave USC and UCLA on an island and only be looking East/South isn’t feasible. They’re going to have to expand West or risk losing them
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Travel demands shift from west to east with more teams. It only gets better with 8 western teams and limited cross-over games. So adding schools is a catch-22.

Also have to believe the P12 is still planning on folding USC/UCLA back in after the travel issues are exposed in this next B1G deal. Long shot but they’re probably talking about it.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
I think the payday is going to be nice for those schools over the next 7 years, but once reality of the logistical nightmare sets in, they are going to be lobbying hard to have at least 2-4 more western region schools added, or they might even try to see what a media deal would like coming back to the Pac and maybe looking at adding some current Big 12 members.
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I agree. I expect the fatigue will appear about year five. If it impacts recruiting or increases portal activity in the less important sports that could also factor.

I have no doubt the agents will do what they always do and drive up the salaries of the coaches and staffs at USC and UCLA now that there is more money to burn. Making it harder for them to leave the conference.

It remains my thesis that this might be the high water mark for big money, big conference. It appears that the TV people are feeling the squeeze unless streaming takes off. USC and UCLA can ask but the TV people might not want to pay more to add two more schools in their region though there are some fat TV markets in the Bay area and Seattle.
 
Liver said:
y'all think the sec doesn't know their audience? look at the number of people still on broadcast. i don't know anyone who has used an antenna in decades. think that is the same in the rural south?

we aren't the sec. that cuts a whole bunch of ways, some good and some bad for football.

finebaum can lick saban's taint.
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Just look at how many southern cities are in the top rankings for number of viewers during college football on Saturdays. We would not be having this media rights saga if the western cities had similar numbers.

Just look at the numbers that Austin and I think OKC provides for college football telecasts. Those are markets that could have been under the P12 banner. That is why we have this never ending thread.
 
PAC MAN said:
IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!!!

Oh wait it's hockey.

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Definitely proof the p12 is totally dead. If only we had a varsity hockey team…

I can’t wait until finebaum and Dodd and the West Virginia troll explain the impact of this move to their adoring fans.
 
hokiehead said:
I'm questioning this. The entire league brings in around $200m. the idea they're annually losing more than 5x their total revenue is incredible.
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The National Basketball Association’s (NBA) revenue for the 2021/22 season topped US$10 billion for the first time.

The league also announced that basketball-related income reached US$8.9 billion, marking another record.
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BuffinCali said:
The NBA loses Billions on the WNBA. Average Attendance is 5,000 per night and that is being generous since there is an average of three thousand free seats/giveaways. Ratings/Viewership: the NBA average game is 14M viewers while the WNBA viewership is 390,000. The WNBA salaries are relatively high compared to what the WNBA league brings in, yet the athletes want private flights, hotels, food budget, enhanced security to match what the NBA players bring in. Granted they don't make NBA type salaries, they have to make that overseas; The American Hockey League (not the NHL, talking the American hockey farm system) has slightly better attendance than the WNBA.
The quality of talent/play has somewhat increased over the years in the WNBA but when you don't have an audience and the NBA is losing so much money to keep that league afloat, it is challenging to justify the players requests.
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That lady took quite the elbow to her left eye. Ouch!
 
If its going to take until Labor Day to get this cluster**** of a media deal done, then we gotta up our game.

Gotta get to page 6236 before its done!
 
Such doom and gloom for the Pac. Yet we appear in 12 of the 40 best games in these (probably garbage) projected ratings…





Six UUs (Schedule!), five Os, four Ws and four SCs, three Beavers, and zilch for the rest of the conference (WhoCLA?)

Im a touch surprised the Buffs TCU game (9/2 10am FOX) didnt make this list with coach Prime and week 1 (land of body bag games) being lopsided matchups. Tenn UVa is on ABC at the same time. Our ratings could shoot up because of all the body bag games.
 
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