Subtraction by addition for the NCHC. Offers nothing except assured wins for DU each season, I guess.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Subtraction by addition for the NCHC. Offers nothing except assured wins for DU each season, I guess.
Sammy11
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I wouldn't have been surprised with the UT/OU side of that except they negotiated further for another half a year to a year after so it doesn't seem to be likely to be the price for letting them go. Also what's in it for FOX?
Agree completely. It did occur to me that in the extremely unlikely event CU ever gets a varsity hockey program, there’s a blueprint for a NCHC invite.
Higher quality puck bunnies?
Good point. I sounds like ESPN was the A player with the best choice of games compared to Fox taking the 2nd tier for FS1 (which is still the case). So they likely didnt have UT or OU as much as ESPN probably did. But Im not gonna go back and look it all up.
Sammy11
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That changed after y'all left. It's not ABC/ESPN with the top games and FOX/FS1 with the remainder. It's more evenly split among the two now.
"Big 12 selection order for each week will be determined via a draft of weeks before the season. In even numbered years, FOX will retain the top choice of weeks and in odd numbered years, ESPN wiil have it."
Game List for Big 12 in 2022
Since 2005, compiling NCAA Division I football and men's basketball television schedules. Looking for a game? Check here.
mattsarzsports.com
Big Jim
WTF?
So they will know well in advance the weeks that Fox picks the top game and ESPN gets their Tues/Wed night fillers.
Not sure about that info at that link. That might be the old deal that hasnt been replaced yet by the new deal....
For the “A” package, ESPN gets the top four football picks each season, six of the top eight picks, eight of the top 12 picks and 12 of the top 20 picks. As part of the deal, ESPN also gets the rights to the Big 12 football championship game and the basketball tournament championship game. The Big 12’s parity helped convince Fox, whose package includes 26 football games per season that will run on Fox broadcast network and FS1, to do the deal.
From Fox’s perspective, the silver lining to the loss of Oklahoma and Texas is that the Big 12 will be more balanced and potentially deeper. For example, TCU and Kansas State sit atop the Big 12’s standings this season. Last season, it was Oklahoma State and Baylor. And the year before that, it was Iowa State. Fox’s deal also provides a slate of Big 12 college basketball games on Fox and FS1 for the first time.
The Big 12 has two years remaining on its current deal, which runs through the 2024-25 season at an annual average of $220M in its final years. The new six-year extension runs through 2030-31.
Big 12 reaches new media deals with ESPN, Fox
The once-beleaguered Big 12 has stabilized its future by coming to terms with ESPN and Fox Sports on a six-year media rights agreement worth a total of $2.28 billion.
www.sportsbusinessjournal.com
Six home games times 12 teams is roughly 72 games. Fox gets 26 games. ESPN gets roughly 46.
I think the ideal scenario if everything blew up and kind of started from scratch would be a P3 setup based on regionality.
Pacific/Mountain/Texas (Tiers based on brand/ratings potential)
- Tier 1 Programs - Oregon, Washington, USC, Texas, OU, aTm
- Tier 2 Programs - Utah, CU, Nebraska, UCLA, Oklahoma State
- Tier 3 Programs - TCU, ASU, Texas Tech, Baylor
- Tier 4 Programs - Kansas, Kansas State, Arizona, Stanford, Cal
Midwest/Northeast/Mid Atlantic
- Tier 1 Programs - Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame
- Tier 2 Programs - Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa, UNC, Virginia
- Tier 3 Programs - Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana, Maryland, NC State, Duke
- Tier 4 Programs - Illinois, West Virginia, Rutgers, BC, Pitt
Lower Midwest/South
- Tier 1 Programs - Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Clemson, FSU, Florida
- Tier 2 Programs - Tennessee, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miami, Arkansas
- Tier 3 Programs - Georgia Tech, Louisville, South Carolina, Kentucky, VT
- Tier 4 Programs - Miss State, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest
Basically consolidates everything into 60 total programs with 20 in each conference, maintains most or all regional rivalries and keeps travel pretty reasonable. Each conference also has 4-6 "brand name" programs. This model removes Oregon State, Washington State, Syracuse, Iowa State, and Northwestern.
/mental masturbation
Pacific/Mountain/Texas (Tiers based on brand/ratings potential)
- Tier 1 Programs - Oregon, Washington, USC, Texas, OU, aTm
- Tier 2 Programs - Utah, CU, Nebraska, UCLA, Oklahoma State
- Tier 3 Programs - TCU, ASU, Texas Tech, Baylor
- Tier 4 Programs - Kansas, Kansas State, Arizona, Stanford, Cal
Midwest/Northeast/Mid Atlantic
- Tier 1 Programs - Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame
- Tier 2 Programs - Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa, UNC, Virginia
- Tier 3 Programs - Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana, Maryland, NC State, Duke
- Tier 4 Programs - Illinois, West Virginia, Rutgers, BC, Pitt
Lower Midwest/South
- Tier 1 Programs - Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Clemson, FSU, Florida
- Tier 2 Programs - Tennessee, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miami, Arkansas
- Tier 3 Programs - Georgia Tech, Louisville, South Carolina, Kentucky, VT
- Tier 4 Programs - Miss State, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest
Basically consolidates everything into 60 total programs with 20 in each conference, maintains most or all regional rivalries and keeps travel pretty reasonable. Each conference also has 4-6 "brand name" programs. This model removes Oregon State, Washington State, Syracuse, Iowa State, and Northwestern.
/mental masturbation
I resemble that comment
I have repeatedly stated, and will continue to state that I am 100% in favor of any proposal to add Tulane to the PAC 12 (or whatever conference we happen to be playing in).
Sammy11
Well-Known Member
Not sure about that info at that link. That might be the old deal that hasnt been replaced yet by the new deal....
For the “A” package, ESPN gets the top four football picks each season, six of the top eight picks, eight of the top 12 picks and 12 of the top 20 picks. As part of the deal, ESPN also gets the rights to the Big 12 football championship game and the basketball tournament championship game. The Big 12’s parity helped convince Fox, whose package includes 26 football games per season that will run on Fox broadcast network and FS1, to do the deal.
From Fox’s perspective, the silver lining to the loss of Oklahoma and Texas is that the Big 12 will be more balanced and potentially deeper. For example, TCU and Kansas State sit atop the Big 12’s standings this season. Last season, it was Oklahoma State and Baylor. And the year before that, it was Iowa State. Fox’s deal also provides a slate of Big 12 college basketball games on Fox and FS1 for the first time.
The Big 12 has two years remaining on its current deal, which runs through the 2024-25 season at an annual average of $220M in its final years. The new six-year extension runs through 2030-31.
Big 12 reaches new media deals with ESPN, Fox
The once-beleaguered Big 12 has stabilized its future by coming to terms with ESPN and Fox Sports on a six-year media rights agreement worth a total of $2.28 billion.
Six home games times 12 teams is roughly 72 games. Fox gets 26 games. ESPN gets roughly 46.
2 points in reply:
1- When talking about UT & OU's exit we'd be referring to the deal that's still running... so I posted that as that's what FOX would have contractual leverage on and it's the deal being harmed by the departure.
2- Big 12 will average 6.5 home games per school. 2 H&H with one buy game typically plus 4.5 home games per school with a 9 game league schedule. So 78 games plus the CCG for 79. So FOX gets 26 and ABC/ESPN gets 52+CCG.
New Orleans is worth the trip. x1000000000
this is going exactly the way wants it to go.
Being an Emo with dirty hair is no way to go through life.
Victory
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That and I respect that their mascot is essentially angry water.
Prime: “I want to play TTU” I mean come on
Just by calling him "Neon" reveals both negative bias and being outside the circle of people who would know what's going on around Coach Prime's orbit.
He's another West Virginia kook.
CU is not getting "desperate." CU has no reason to be desperate. the truck stop 12 is waiting right there like a faithful booty call. the Buffs can show up whenever they want to.
being associated with these drooling ass clowns from appalachia is not going to be good for my contentment. also, who is holding for us on road trips? asking for a friend...
being associated with these drooling ass clowns from appalachia is not going to be good for my contentment. also, who is holding for us on road trips? asking for a friend...
I think there are exactly 3 Cali a holes on this board, and two of them have avoided this thread. Who exactly are you talking to?
Also, CA has the fourth largest economy in the world. They are a net contributor to the federal budget, unlike many of the states involved with the b12. Hardly a welfare state.
Texas has a good economy due to oil, but I don’t want anything to do with playing any schools from there. Adding Texas schools ****ed up the big8. Don’t go back.
**** those guys!
I'm hoping we can talk about this without bringing too much politics into this forum, so please try to limit discussion to university politics and the specific topic.
Do we think that there will be pressure, particularly as it relates to women's and LGBTQ rights, from the university at large if CU considers affiliating with the Big 12 (FL, OH, WV, TX, OK, KS, IA & UT along with specific policies and also academic freedom issues at Baylor and BYU)... or do we think that CU will look at it as an AD issue and let things be decided on the merits of what would be the best situation for CU athletics success & prosperity?
Do we think that there will be pressure, particularly as it relates to women's and LGBTQ rights, from the university at large if CU considers affiliating with the Big 12 (FL, OH, WV, TX, OK, KS, IA & UT along with specific policies and also academic freedom issues at Baylor and BYU)... or do we think that CU will look at it as an AD issue and let things be decided on the merits of what would be the best situation for CU athletics success & prosperity?
Would it be any different if CU were to align itself with schools from say, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, and Nebraska? What about Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas, Florida, South Carolina, Missouri, Kentucky and Mississippi?
Honestly, there’s really no room for both politics and sports anymore. You’re either able to compartmentalize and make the best decision for the issue at hand - in this case the issue is athletics - or you choose to take a political/moral high ground and let athletics suffer/die (as the University) or let your fandom fade.