A point I haven't seen anyone bring up which is absolutely the truth: CU would never have gone to the Pac-12 in the first place if USC and UCLA weren't in it.
What's your point?
A point I haven't seen anyone bring up which is absolutely the truth: CU would never have gone to the Pac-12 in the first place if USC and UCLA weren't in it.
When Lauren Boebert is from your state you probably don't have the high-ground.Despite the number of Trump-loving mother ****ing rednecks that frequent Buc-ees, they have the cleanest public bathrooms you will ever see..
god I love cu but the assholes on here really piss me off. You all feel so entitled. It’s mostly you shiithead left wing aholes that have to throw politics into the mix. Do you drive dickhead? Do you get gas our wait an hour for your ev? Whatever your choice you are stopping some where ahole! so fVck you! if you don’t drive or commute shut the FVck up!
When Lauren Boebert is from your state you probably don't have the high-ground.
Despite the number of Trump-loving mother ****ing rednecks that frequent Buc-ees, they have the cleanest public bathrooms you will ever see..
That this perspective and the importance of the LA market was a primary reason why CU was in the conference. Take that away and you have to wonder why you should stay. Makes it much easier to leave. Kind of like if you took a job then after being pretty happy for a while your boss left and they moved the corporate office. It's no longer what you signed up for.What's your point?
The best thing RG has said about the B12 is it includes Houston and the Houston market, mentioned it twice, and that’s where we’ve recruited well in the past. Neither of these guys seem that enthusiastic about what they’re getting into. Phil seemed to inadvertently say the move will upset alumni relations in California.Checks notes. Yep. That sounds like RG.
That this perspective and the importance of the LA market was a primary reason why CU was in the conference. Take that away and you have to wonder why you should stay. Makes it much easier to leave. Kind of like if you took a job then after being pretty happy for a while your boss left and they moved the corporate office. It's no longer what you signed up for.
God I love politics on this board!When Lauren Boebert is from your state you probably don't have the high-ground.
GET HIM FRED!God I love politics on this board!
The CA (particularly SoCal) factor is very real and it's significant. It's why I've been such a big proponent of SDSU. It has about nothing to do with the Aztecs and everything to do with that geography's importance to CU. I lived off and on in San Diego County for years. I can't remember meeting a single Aztec fan and never went there for a single game. That's irrelevant. If it was a school in a city I enjoy and have some good feelings about, I'd be talking up UNLV since Nikita went there and it's the best road trip in the west. But back to SDSU, lots of CU alums and prospective students & lots of recruiting success in SD & OC.The best thing RG has said about the B12 is it includes Houston and the Houston market, mentioned it twice, and that’s where we’ve recruited well in the past. Neither of these guys seem that enthusiastic about what they’re getting into. Phil seemed to inadvertently say the move will upset alumni relations in California.
Who is this guy?god I love cu but the assholes on here really piss me off. You all feel so entitled. It’s mostly you shiithead left wing aholes that have to throw politics into the mix. Do you drive dickhead? Do you get gas our wait an hour for your ev? Whatever your choice you are stopping some where ahole! so fVck you! if you don’t drive or commute shut the FVck up!
Makes it all the more strange they didn’t add SDSU immediately after losing USC and UCLA. To your point, it keeps everyone involved in the area. So dumb. Nothing anyone can do about it now other than the B12 adding SDSU. We’ll see if it goes that route.The CA (particularly SoCal) factor is very real and it's significant. It's why I've been such a big proponent of SDSU. It has about nothing to do with the Aztecs and everything to do with that geography's importance to CU. I lived off and on in San Diego County for years. I can't remember meeting a single Aztec fan and never went there for a single game. That's irrelevant. If it was a school in a city I enjoy and have some good feelings about, I'd be talking up UNLV since Nikita went there and it's the best road trip in the west. But back to SDSU, lots of CU alums and prospective students & lots of recruiting success in SD & OC.
For the university priorities, SDSU and ASU would probably be the best adds for us.
A little uncomplimentary of a group of institutions that just Saved Your Ass.Time for me to roll out the welcome mat.
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He also said that USC and UCLA leaving basically eliminated their ability to connect with alumni in SoCal...The best thing RG has said about the B12 is it includes Houston and the Houston market, mentioned it twice, and that’s where we’ve recruited well in the past. Neither of these guys seem that enthusiastic about what they’re getting into. Phil seemed to inadvertently say the move will upset alumni relations in California.
It comes with Hulu Live and Disney plus. Works out because I have Hulu Live. I hated having to get Sling or Fubo for another $40, which basically mirrored Hulu Live, MINUS a couple of other things i want for the rest of the year. But if I had to just get ESPN +, I'd be cool with that.Irony:
CU is moving from the P12 to the B12, in part, because supposedly B12 will broadcast on more linear channels. Yet in order to watch a bunch of CU's games I'll have to subscribe to ESPN+ another streaming service.
A new guy that won't shut up about politics!Who is this guy?
I suspect he's going to be proven wrong in short order. The Titanic is sinking and there aren't enough life boats for everyone. CU got one, though."Of the 10 current members, Colorado is the only school the Pac-12 can lose in the realignment game without triggering either mass panic or a rush to the door that decimates the league." (do emergency meetings count as panic?)
Holy ****! The one team that is driving significant national interest, is the one that is dispensable in media negotiations. Bravo!A few gems from Wilner here:
"If a school participates in a conference for 12 years, wins no major championships, churns through five football coaches, then decides to leave, was it really ever there?" (didn't we win the MBB tournament the first year?)
"Also, CU’s departure is, at this moment, more about the psychological toll it could have on the remaining Pac-12 schools than any material damage sustained by the exit. The Buffaloes can be replaced, and easily so. They have made little competitive impact and lack the brand value and media market to kneecap the Pac-12 as it negotiates a broadcast contract." (Ha, we shall see. Hello Mountain West + Stanford).
"Of the 10 current members, Colorado is the only school the Pac-12 can lose in the realignment game without triggering either mass panic or a rush to the door that decimates the league." (do emergency meetings count as panic?)
"Our strong suspicion is that Kliavkoff has accounted for CU’s possible exit in his media rights negotiations and will pivot to Plan B." (ah yes, the media rights get better without Colorado).
"One president, DiStefano, took the option. Could others follow?" (is DeStefano our president now or is Jon Wilner a hack?)
One thing I always hated about the Pac-12 was this strange attitude of superiority from the Pac-8 schools and conference media where even the AZ schools weren't fully treated the same as the originals. I always felt that their dream was to find 4 more AAU or close enough members to the east so we could be a 16 team conference where the original Pac-8 schools could be separated from the desert & mountain people except for a couple games and a conference tournament. They wanted and needed the markets & money, but hated the expansion of their little club.A few gems from Wilner here:
"If a school participates in a conference for 12 years, wins no major championships, churns through five football coaches, then decides to leave, was it really ever there?" (didn't we win the MBB tournament the first year?)
"Also, CU’s departure is, at this moment, more about the psychological toll it could have on the remaining Pac-12 schools than any material damage sustained by the exit. The Buffaloes can be replaced, and easily so. They have made little competitive impact and lack the brand value and media market to kneecap the Pac-12 as it negotiates a broadcast contract." (Ha, we shall see. Hello Mountain West + Stanford).
"Of the 10 current members, Colorado is the only school the Pac-12 can lose in the realignment game without triggering either mass panic or a rush to the door that decimates the league." (do emergency meetings count as panic?)
"Our strong suspicion is that Kliavkoff has accounted for CU’s possible exit in his media rights negotiations and will pivot to Plan B." (ah yes, the media rights get better without Colorado).
"One president, DiStefano, took the option. Could others follow?" (is DeStefano our president now or is Jon Wilner a hack?)
About sums up my response to today's news. When we went to the Pac-12 I hung on every moment of it, I don't know if its the portal, the teams in the division, the way the Pac got lost, the ****ty roadies available to us, or macro level changes in CFB - But I'm having a hard time caring 5% as much as last time.
I wonder why Stanford wasn't picked up in the top time slot for national broadcasts the first 2 weeks of the season. It certainly doesn't compute for Wilner.Holy ****! The one team that is driving significant national interest, is the one that is dispensable in media negotiations. Bravo!