ScreamingBeagle
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Arizona is #14 for the time being. But they better be careful, because if Oregon gets a hard no from Big 10 then Big XII will move Oregon to the front of the line in a hurry.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Great! I love buc-ee’s.
Reputable source says it will be UA, UO, and UW
Victory
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Agree, and as it relates to ESPN Fox and b12, brands have likely surpassed markets in terms of importance.Like Nebraska, Oregon has a premium national brand. Ducks have done one hell of a job getting radio and sports bar partnerships all over the country. The state itself is #27 in population and trending to pass KY and LA in the next Census.
Speaking of population data, CO should very soon be passing WI to move into the Top 20.
List of U.S. states and territories by population - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Since the b12 doesn’t have a b12 network, the thinking that large Nielsen markets = increase subscription rates = increased revenue is gone.
One could argue large populated metros = more ad revenue over a better brand but that’s questionable.
Long story short, Oregon is valuable despite their market and even more so to a b12 than say a B1G since they don’t care about increasing a non-existent network’s subscription rates.
BerkeleyBuff
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If it is the UA, UO, UW triumvirate, CU is in a very strong conference suddenly. Definitely in the P4, arguably in range of pushing the ACC down a notch. The Pac 12-3 is about to get prison shanked.
ahoelsken
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Cartoon Network? HGTV?
Nascar’s Xfinity Series Signs History-Making Deal With The CW
One part of NASCAR’s multi-billion-dollar broadcast package has now fallen into place.www.forbes.com
The CW is going to be running out of money real soon if not already.
Who the hell is going to eventually sign the PAC 9 or 8 or ... ?
I am told the P12 has media allies.
16 teams with 4 pods of 4 teams for scheduling purposes.
1. UO, UW, BYU, UA
2. CU, KSU, KU, OSU
3. TTU, TCU, UH, **** bailer
4. ISU, Cincy, WVU, UCF
Annual schedule of your 3 pod-mates plus 2 from each of the other pods.
Do we like this? I think I do. Pod 4 is the only one that's a bit wonky, especially for ISU, but I'm sure they'd be pretty happy with having a leg up on recruiting inroads into OH & FL.
Victory
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I’ve read that about 27 million times in the last day or so. These are the same people that think CFB is a historical retrospective that freezes in time once the season ends. Past ≠ future.
I’d argue Colorado is the most misunderstood program in college football and this offseasons events highlight that.
Agree, more is definitely happening. The faces of the regents gave it away. They didn’t want to make this move. Felt like they had to. Whatever existing P12 deal outline got blown up yesterday. If I had to guess “I’ll get back to you” was the message from the networks to the P12.
One of them ESPN who happily orchestrated CU’s move to the b12.
I’m good with the KU, KSU, and OSU pairing with CU.
No need to try to hype up a rivalry that might not materialize with BYU like with Utah. Those fine folks from Kansas & Oklahoma won’t take it well after losing to CU…and I love that thought!
No need to try to hype up a rivalry that might not materialize with BYU like with Utah. Those fine folks from Kansas & Oklahoma won’t take it well after losing to CU…and I love that thought!
I could be wrong about this, but I'm not sure Fox would pony up for additions to the Big Ten.
My impression from Duck fans on Twitter, surprisingly, they are being reasonable about this - and view a move to the B12 the same way we did.
BerkeleyBuff
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No need for pods. Do the same thing the B1G did - set perma-rivals, no need for everyone to have the same number of rivals, just make it so it actually makes sense for each school/ fanbase.
Victory
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Had my heart set on being in Pod 1. Harder schedule but better TV.
The truly funny thing about UO, UW and UA leaving would be GK trying to convince Stanford to hang around and cozy up to Fresno State and Boise State.
Boy you are good at this!
Victory
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Also bc I want to stay close to schools that one day aspire to the B1G.
Their fan base and administration is in massive denial currentlyUtah (except whiter than depicted):
West - UO, UW, BYU, UA
North - CU, KSU, KU, ISU
South - TTU, TCU, OSU, **** bailer
East - UH, Cincy, WVU, UCF
My go to with Utah fans during my college days was "Hey, you can't be holding hands. God frowns upon you."
Assholeish? Absolutely.
Funny to drunk college kids? Definitely.
ScreamingBeagle
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I don't think the money is as big of deal as others want to make it for the B1G. Because Oregon and Washington both would take half shares.
33-35 million per year is far better than they are getting from any PAC12 deal. If the B1G wants UW/UO on the cheap, now is the time to do it
The pac12 media negotiations are far worse than some want to project.
The problem is the logistics of going past 16. That is a seismic shift in logistics and could require out of the box thinking to make it work long term. Probably going to need a 4 team conference championship playoff down the road.
The pac12 is sitting on a prisoners dilemma, and any university
that cares about football knows the exposure and financial shortfall they face if they stay. And Oregon will take a B12 offer in a heartbeat if the above fails.
I like 1,2,3, 4 better.
Why would Fox want to pay B1G prices for UO/UW if they could get them for B12 prices? They surely are telling B1G to stay away, aren’t they?
ScreamingBeagle
Active Member
Because you can get them in the B1G for B12 prices. It's already been stated they might receive half shares. And they would take it in a heartbeat.
Clete Blakeman.What do you have against, ISU?
Sure. Not sure that was a protest as much as just a bad business decision, watching the market rush by.
Sony tried that with Beta-cam in the broadcast/industrial market in the 90s, and slowly lost its market share to more open-architecture Panasonic and JVC for years. MAC made it work, I guess.
I would doubt either of them were doing it for anything other than a projection of long-term profit. Few corporations are more than hyper-focused bean counters. Patagonia may be the big exception.
Anyway…. I’m just taking a massive turn down a dumb-ass rabbit hole.. ‘cause I’m board at lunch.