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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Yep, they are just holding back the good stuff!
They talked a little bit about FSU this morning and mentioned that the BOR has a meeting today but I don't see anything in this agenda that is regarding athletics:
https://trustees.fsu.edu/meetings
https://trustees.fsu.edu/meetings
"Seminole Boosters, Inc. Loan" could be how they plan to pay their way out of the ACC...
I seriously doubt this will convince any P12 school to stay.
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Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff has been working the proverbial phones for over a year now in an attempt to land a strong enough media rights deal to keep the conference together. Over the past several months, we’ve heard two things that could keep the deal from being satisfactory in the...
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Except the loan is only for $10 million
I think we would all be coping the same way if we hadn’t made the jump, but it’s delusional. The only way it’s possible over the life of the P12 contract (presumably 5-7 years) is if they purchase Disney/ESPN and essentially take all ESPN+ content and put it on Apple TV and force subscriptions.
Bigger markers like LA and Denver?
GoBuffs08
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And what bigger markets does the Pac have to grow into after losing USC and UCLA? No teams out there are going to grow the base, and that has been the Pac problem and why they should have got UT and OU when they had a chance.
I doubt Apple's proposal is tied to Apple TV+ subscribers, but rather the PXX add-on you have to book separately just like they do with MLS.
For Apple this (live sports on Apple TV+) is all an experiment and not their core business. Their core business is and will remain TV shows and movies to grow Apple TV+.
241Volcanos
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If Zona jumps, ASU will jump. Then Utah will jump. Staying is only an option for UW-UO and the teams with no better options.
Rice (Houston), SMU (Dallas), SDSU (San Diego), Fresno State (Central Valley, maybe Sacramento), Colorado State ( Denver), UNLV (Las Vegas), and Tulane (New Orleans) are their options for expansion. The MWC schools cost $34M apiece if they want them for 2024.
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
What would it cost for FSU to buy their way out?
Up to $300M if they can't negotiate it down.
This is called the bargaining stage.
I'd certainly be trying to figure out how it could work. Problem is that the buy-in on an uncertain model tied to fast and unprecedented growth was one of the main issues with the PACN plan that caused a lot of the current mess. It's a tough sell.
Wait, the Apple+ sports package would be $20/month? That’s insane! Sorry if I haven’t seen this.
Utah is in a tough spot. They can’t honestly believe that the PAC deal is better than the B12 deal. Problem is they would have a hard time selling a move to their supporters. Stepping down to join the same conference as BYU would not go over well with their fans, who have developed a superiority complex since joining the PAC 12.
But the way I interpreted that figure is that would get them out of having to give up their home media money thru 2036. Still a lot if money though
They can count, but they’ve convinced themselves that the PAC deal will be good for them. Or at least good enough so that they don’t have to lower themselves by joining the B12. I get it. I really do. I’m a perfect world, the PAC survives and remains a viable P5 conference. It just seems more and more unlikely at this point.Apparently Utah fans can’t count.
hawg1
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Just a model. He got pushback. You can toggle it at any price you want.
If it were CU, I'd say "every penny counts."
Since the deal is subscriber based it would seem like the TV market is irrelevant. So number of fans, regardless of where they are is the only metric that matters. More specifically fans that sign up for the monthly subscription. So Cal, Stanford - well the whole state of California would not be the cash cow that a TV deal would be.
This made me think about the potential consequences of our loan from the P12. Does the CU admin finally step up and settle that like they should have from the beginning?If it were CU, I'd say "every penny counts."
ahoelsken
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Baghdad Bob!
How did the general consensus go from UA, UW, UO to UA, ASU, UU? Because the Cucks believe they have a B1G deal?
I would prefer the latter to promote regional solidarity and an easier path to the championship. I do want to see UW added at all costs. Let the Cucks and 'Furd go indy and the remainder can join the MW. A rivalry with UW, with teams at the level of the 90s, would be fun to watch. I don't see the P-12 surviving and any school that sticks around to be a streaming-only test case is foolish.
I would prefer the latter to promote regional solidarity and an easier path to the championship. I do want to see UW added at all costs. Let the Cucks and 'Furd go indy and the remainder can join the MW. A rivalry with UW, with teams at the level of the 90s, would be fun to watch. I don't see the P-12 surviving and any school that sticks around to be a streaming-only test case is foolish.
LHN aside UT and OU likely leave for the SEC anyways at the same time as USC and UCLA for all the same reasons
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