I can't say I agree with you on this. They're not killing CFB.This all sucks.
There, I said it.
CFB is dying. I hate all of this.
They're killing ALL of college sports.
I can't say I agree with you on this. They're not killing CFB.This all sucks.
There, I said it.
CFB is dying. I hate all of this.
See my previous post. The networks are done with all the individual conference deals. It’s about the package as a whole, not individual school value, IMO. They will continue to ask themselves, “does school X make our B1G/SEC/Big12 package stronger”, not “does school X bring equal value as all the other programs currently in the conference”This. Even imagining half shares, that's $140M. The offer from Apple was supposedly something like $200M (CU included), and the TV partners for the B1G didn't even submit a bid.
I really don't understand the math if the B1G partners would rather have the 4 you list at $140M rather than a 10 team Pac12 at (let's say) $220M.
Certainly. I wouldn't doubt the existing 14 in the B1G may have issues adding two teams in the Pacific Northwest. That's a whole other ball of wax.Depending on the contracts it could be something the existing schools won't agree to whether too much streaming or scheduling/travel issues. TBD
Texas Tech rarely makes sense, regardless of time or place.Texas Tech doesn't make a lot sense grouped with those three teams.
The TV networks are not in the business of making football conferences stronger as a package, they are in the business of making profits.See my previous post. The networks are done with all the individual conference deals. It’s about the package as a whole, not individual school value, IMO. They will continue to ask themselves, “does school X make our B1G/SEC/Big12 package stronger”, not “does school X bring equal value as all the other programs currently in the conference”
Uhhh making a conference stronger and marketing it as a package is exactly what leads to increasing profits. What do you think is happening here? What do you think the NFL is?The TV networks are not in the business of making football conferences stronger as a package, they are in the business of making profits.
Sure, if making a package stronger increases their profits, it makes sense, but just making the product stronger by investing more money without an ROI would quickly get a CEO canned.
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thankfully, way fewer people need to die to drive interest in this thread. Just CFBwe're about 1/2 way to Coronavirus
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We’re headed toward a more efficient pro feeder league for the NFL while everyone else may get back to the concept of the student athlete if they choose to keep their programs going.I can't say I agree with you on this. They're not killing CFB.
They're killing ALL of college sports.
I don't think many people in DC care about WVU. Morgantown is closer to Pittsburg than DC. And WVU definitely doesn't give the SEC in-market carriage rates for DC. There are a bunch of network affiliates in WV.
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both our posts can be true. I believe the more WVU alums end up in the DC area than anywhere else (not immediately finding the numbers). Proximity to Morgantown isn't terribly relevant to this discussion, as the state flagship school is going to pull students from all over the state.
I realize I'm a few pages late, but piss off. I've been otherwise occupied.Not necessarily true. When I went to college in DC, I did see some WVU representation in addition to UVA, VT, and UMD.
Don't you ****ing people have jobs? Jesus ****.
And they supply us with Punters!They're going crazy in recruiting since hiring Brohm and have put together a very well funded NIL program.
Feels like we are taking a big step towards this right now. My fear is that what’s good for the game isn’t always viewed as good for business. Greed ****s stuff up a lot. We can all get fat, nobody has to get slaughtered.I hope the end game is basically that we have 8 regional "conferences" of 8 teams, all competing under the same rules with a scheduling and playoff matrix, and all of us under a revenue system that provides a somewhat level playing field for competitive balance.
You know, pretty much how CFB was 35 years ago but with certain issues improved or fixed.
I realize I'm a few pages late, but piss off. I've been otherwise occupied.
When I was involved in the DC alumi club network back in the 20-aughts, WVU had one of the largest alumni bases in the area, rivaled only by PSU. Tons of Marylanders who didn't (or couldn't) go to College Park would go to Morgantown to drink and burn couches. The return home to continue drinking
Not sure how we get there from here, but would co-sign that plan.I hope the end game is basically that we have 8 regional "conferences" of 8 teams, all competing under the same rules with a scheduling and playoff matrix, and all of us under a revenue system that provides a somewhat level playing field for competitive balance.
You know, pretty much how CFB was 35 years ago but with certain issues improved or fixed.
SEC and B1G have to come together at some point. Maybe consolidation over the next few years is the first step and then merging the two leagues is the next step in 2030? Need centralized governingI hope the end game is basically that we have 8 regional "conferences" of 8 teams, all competing under the same rules with a scheduling and playoff matrix, and all of us under a revenue system that provides a somewhat level playing field for competitive balance.
You know, pretty much how CFB was 35 years ago but with certain issues improved or fixed.
That's gotta have to be a pretty big rate of return for basically an investment. Hundreds of millions of extra dollars spent, for temporary ownership of rights. The owners are still the schools, this isn't the NFL yet by a long shot.Uhhh making a conference stronger and marketing it as a package is exactly what leads to increasing profits. What do you think is happening here? What do you think the NFL is?
Eventually the P2 gobble everything up, 30-32 teams each. Then they merge in order to jointly negotiate TV contracts and play under the same rules.Not sure how we get there from here, but would co-sign that plan.
would you please walk me through the logic that led you to this conclusion? I'm honestly not seeing why that would ever have to happenSEC and B1G have to come together at some point. ...
If CU was in their position, what would you be advocating for?I wonder how much of a hit Oregon and UW would take to get into the B1G versus what the B12 would offer? 0? 5? 10 million?
Cause the B1G has them by the balls.
Equal rules, level scheduling, revenue sharing, collective bargaining, one league to negotiate media contracts. Look at the NFL pre merger. That’s where this is heading… and then ultimately a full merger into one league. It’s the most profitable business model for the sportwould you please walk me through the logic that led you to this conclusion? I'm honestly not seeing why that would ever have to happen
Tough call. You'd have to get boosters lined up to finance any deficit.If CU was in their position, what would you be advocating for?
don't speak too soon.thankfully, way fewer people need to die to drive interest in this thread. Just CFB