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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

They also gave MLS away for free to TMobile customers, that number is inflated.
Sure,

And Nebraska football sold thousands of unsold seats to big boosters for $1 each to keep their sellout streak running, MLB teams regularly do promotions with little leagues "selling" them tickets at pennies on the dollar of face value. NFL Sunday ticket was given away to Direct TV customers, now it is tied to TMobile.

Plenty of viewership numbers are inflated in the sports world (and in other forms of entertainment.) As long as advertising is sold on a basis of the number of eyes viewing it there will be the interest in pumping up the numbers. They would rather sell the product at full price but they do what they need to maximize value.
 
I could see two 8 team leagues in the conference. Geographically something like:
UofA
ASU
BYU
Utah
CU
Kansas
Kansas State
OSU

That leaves all of the Texas schools with the Midwest teams

No Way Meme GIF
 
Per team? That seems highly suspect, especially when you consider the information where NFL Sunday Ticket is only 2m subscribers nationwide. DirecTV reported 2022 subs at 1.5m for NFL ST and they are saying YouTube needs 4m subscribers to break even.

There's no chance that GK was trying to sell the deal to the CEO group as being equal to the Big 12 if and only if each program gets more subscribers than NFL Sunday Ticket does nationwide.

1.7m per team would be around 20m, which is roughly a third of the number of subscribers Netflix has in the US (76m for US/Canada so I'll assume it's somewhere around 70m for the US alone). I think that'd be a very, very ambitious goal.
 

what????? that statement and the math doesn't work.... explain?

assuming that USC, UCLA, and Colorado were already gone, you are down to 9 teams... how does that make any sense? Wouldn't the "president" ask to take 7 teams?
 
1.7m per team would be around 20m, which is roughly a third of the number of subscribers Netflix has in the US (76m for US/Canada so I'll assume it's somewhere around 70m for the US alone). I think that'd be a very, very ambitious goal.
There's very very ambitious and there is laughably unattainable and this falls somewhere beyond laughably unattainable. The SEC and B1G combined might be able to achieve that
 
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the wv guy said yesterday that the 1.7 million subscribers were PER TEAM. IF true that would have been completely ridiculous though the accounting seems to make more sense
Woof. You could probably count the number of teams in all of the NCAA that would have at least 1.7M paid monthly subscribers on two hands. There's not a single one in the old Pac12.
 
what????? that statement and the math doesn't work.... explain?

assuming that USC, UCLA, and Colorado were already gone, you are down to 9 teams... how does that make any sense? Wouldn't the "president" ask to take 7 teams?

I'm guessing McMurphy added the 9 to the quote, and the wording ended up a bit awkward. He meant all nine, minus two, equals seven.
 
Has this guy been reasonably accurate about anything on conference realignment so far? Suggesting ESPN would pay more to the entire ACC +4 than they currently do is insane in and of itself, but suggesting that adding Stanford, Cal, OSU and WSU to the ACC in some kind of mythical merger is going to keep FSU and Clemson happy is also insane.
 
One thing I'm looking forward to is the shocked facial expressions of the USC and UCLA players and fans when they have to go to Columbus, Ann Arbor, State College etc. in late October or November and don't have that warm and cozy 70 degrees plus to play in. Should be fun.
 
One thing I'm looking forward to is the shocked facial expressions of the USC and UCLA players and fans when they have to go to Columbus, Ann Arbor, State College etc. in late October or November and don't have that warm and cozy 70 degrees plus to play in. Should be fun.
Because they never had cold weather games in Oregon, Washington, Colorado or Utah.
 
Has this guy been reasonably accurate about anything on conference realignment so far? Suggesting ESPN would pay more to the entire ACC +4 than they currently do is insane in and of itself, but suggesting that adding Stanford, Cal, OSU and WSU to the ACC in some kind of mythical merger is going to keep FSU and Clemson happy is also insane.

Jim Williams is very useful actually. Whatever he tweets is absolutely not happening.
 
Has anyone else noticed that the thread that has everyone talking out of their a$$es is currently 665 pages? It is by far the longest thread in AllBuffs. Apparently more people talk out of their collective a$$es than we hate Nebraska.

Can you imagine what this thread would have looked like over at netbuffs?
 
the question is how many more rounds there will be and when the wheel spins for the last time
Nah. It will keep spinning until there isn’t any money left. By the 2030’s you might have athletics departments switching schools because they couldn’t agree with the administration about the new stadium
 
Nah. It will keep spinning until there isn’t any money left. By the 2030’s you might have athletics departments switching schools because they couldn’t agree with the administration about the new stadium

My point is that I believe the upper tier of CFB will become a closed shop at one point. If you aren't in by that point, you're out. Permanently.
 
Because they never had cold weather games in Oregon, Washington, Colorado or Utah.
By and large those venues aren't anything like football in the upper Midwest in the latter weeks of the season. And don't forget Minneapolis and Iowa City.
 
Because they never had cold weather games in Oregon, Washington, Colorado or Utah.
Eugene and Seattle are usually pretty nice in October. Maybe some rain, but nothing nasty.

Pullman, on the other hand...
 
Not if they are teams that nobody watches.

OSU has been a drag on the PAC12 for decades, they got lucky being a legacy member of the PAC with Oregon but their market appeal is more similar to CSU.

And if SDSU had any kind of fan interest they would have been in a higher profile conference long ago. They simply don't. Their TV ratings (including bowls) simply don't justify giving them a piece of the conference money.

I'd love to do a road trip there is not enough justification for adding teams to a conference.

When they can prove it with actual numbers, tickets sales and TV viewers then consider them but a great place to play golf doesn't do it.
The networks are in charge of this. So if they say that a school has value and they want it as part of the inventory, the Big 12 will pursue. If the Big 12 doesn't get that word, it won't pursue.

Since that's the reality and none of us know the broadcaster business well enough to intelligently contradict anything they push, I'm not going to bother any more with that aspect of this. Whether a school is approved or not by ESPN & Fox proves the case one way or the other.

Also, I'm no longer going to worry about academic fit. That was a driver for Pac-12 which blackballed a lot of good candidates since we had enough votes to block expansion coming from schools which look down on even half of the AAU and most R1s. Not the case any more.

My focus is completely now on whether the school would be fun to play and whether they would be committed to putting out a competitive product. Basically - would they have a great home crowd, put forth all effort to win, and have the resources/ capability to to challenge for conference championships?
 
Has this guy been reasonably accurate about anything on conference realignment so far? Suggesting ESPN would pay more to the entire ACC +4 than they currently do is insane in and of itself, but suggesting that adding Stanford, Cal, OSU and WSU to the ACC in some kind of mythical merger is going to keep FSU and Clemson happy is also insane.

I'll take "Things that had merit a year ago when USC and UCLA bolted, but are now a day late and a dollar short for $1000, Alex"
 
Has anyone else noticed that the thread that has everyone talking out of their a$$es is currently 665 pages? It is by far the longest thread in AllBuffs. Apparently more people talk out of their collective a$$es than we hate Nebraska.

Can you imagine what this thread would have looked like over at netbuffs?
I’ve lost the ability to talk out of my ass since that damned colonoscopy!
 
One thing I'm looking forward to is the shocked facial expressions of the USC and UCLA players and fans when they have to go to Columbus, Ann Arbor, State College etc. in late October or November and don't have that warm and cozy 70 degrees plus to play in. Should be fun.
Equally shocking to at least the Bruins will be walking into stadiums full of 80, 90, 100,000 college football fans.
 
The networks are in charge of this. So if they say that a school has value and they want it as part of the inventory, the Big 12 will pursue. If the Big 12 doesn't get that word, it won't pursue.

Since that's the reality and none of us know the broadcaster business well enough to intelligently contradict anything they push, I'm not going to bother any more with that aspect of this. Whether a school is approved or not by ESPN & Fox proves the case one way or the other.

Also, I'm no longer going to worry about academic fit. That was a driver for Pac-12 which blackballed a lot of good candidates since we had enough votes to block expansion coming from schools which look down on even half of the AAU and most R1s. Not the case any more.

My focus is completely now on whether the school would be fun to play and whether they would be committed to putting out a competitive product. Basically - would they have a great home crowd, put forth all effort to win, and have the resources/ capability to to challenge for conference championships?
You are right about the networks driving this. They care about the bottom line.

At this point though we need to care about the bottom line as well. That is what motivated us to jump to the B12 when we were in a position of strength and got a full share instead of waiting for the rest of the conference.

If CU wants to compete at the highest level, if we want playing for championships to be a realistic possibility we have to worry about the money.

The SEC and the B1G are headed towards $100 million per school payouts, if you are trying to compete with the schools getting that kind of money then what a school does to the conference media distribution matters. If adding school X is likely to increase our value to the Networks by $5 million per school then come on in, I don't care if all they teach is truck driving and hair styling.

On the other side of that if adding Y school is likely to end up reducing our share by $3-4 million per year then no thanks, and I don't care how good their academics are or how great a place they are for a road trip.
 
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