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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

Alfred91 said:
Hard to comprehend why anyone could argue who "should" or "shouldn't" be in a power conference when 75% of the Big Ten and SEC are only there because the way things shook out 100 years ago and wouldn't get a sniff if someone was building a power conference today.
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Alfred91 said:
Hard to comprehend why anyone could argue who "should" or "shouldn't" be in a power conference when 75% of the Big Ten and SEC are only there because the way things shook out 100 years ago and wouldn't get a sniff if someone was building a power conference today.
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Your comment is EXACTLY why I do not understand the money that is given to the Big 10 & SEC. I do NOT see what some of the bottom SEC schools offer MORE than Colorado (this is an example because we have a significantly larger student body - 8k more and our metro area population is 3 mil and Jackson is 436k.). There HAS to be monopolistic behavior from the SEC and Big 10 schools. If they fell under US business laws, it would be broken up. This is where the schools hide behind the "not for profit" model.
 
PhillyBuff said:
Your comment is EXACTLY why I do not understand the money that is given to the Big 10 & SEC. I do NOT see what some of the bottom SEC schools offer MORE than Colorado (this is an example because we have a significantly larger student body - 8k more and our metro area population is 3 mil and Jackson is 436k.). There HAS to be monopolistic behavior from the SEC and Big 10 schools. If they fell under US business laws, it would be broken up. This is where the schools hide behind the "not for profit" model.
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This type of thinking would only make sense if at some point every conference dissolved and every individual team was then paid what it is "worth." That hasn't happened, hence you get some inconsistencies. The bottom SEC teams are just getting paid because of Alabama, LSU, Florida. Georgia, etc.
 
PhillyBuff said:
Your comment is EXACTLY why I do not understand the money that is given to the Big 10 & SEC. I do NOT see what some of the bottom SEC schools offer MORE than Colorado (this is an example because we have a significantly larger student body - 8k more and our metro area population is 3 mil and Jackson is 436k.). There HAS to be monopolistic behavior from the SEC and Big 10 schools. If they fell under US business laws, it would be broken up. This is where the schools hide behind the "not for profit" model.
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WTF?
 
BerkeleyBuff said:
This type of thinking would only make sense if at some point every conference dissolved and every individual team was then paid what it is "worth." That hasn't happened, hence you get some inconsistencies. The bottom SEC teams are just getting paid because of Alabama, LSU, Florida. Georgia, etc.
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You are the first person to say that I even made any sense. (y)
 
This is really really dumb
CAL is going to play in the ACC on UCLA's Big10 Money
STANFORD is going to damage its Olympic sports by making them travel when all they need is local competition
SMU is going to buy their way into P5 with old money
The Big12 should just take on OSU and WSU at a reduced share, and take the P12 assets on for pennies
 
4BienemyTDs said:
This is really really dumb
CAL is going to play in the ACC on UCLA's Big10 Money
STANFORD is going to damage its Olympic sports by making them travel when all they need is local competition
SMU is going to buy their way into P5 with old money
The Big12 should just take on OSU and WSU at a reduced share, and take the P12 assets on for pennies
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Item #2 may be less of a new issue for Stanford than we think. Heard on the Wetzel and Forde podcast that for a few sports this might actually be an improvement. They gave an example where women's field hockey was already playing a bunch of schools in the Northeast (Forde had some knowledge since his daughter swam for Stanford). A lot of the uncommon / individual sports are already using ad hoc leagues or regionalized meets.

Really feels bad for WSU and OSU who are essentially getting kicked for historical G5's with bigger metro areas (but likely not bigger fan bases except for BYU). P12 leadership really failed them. If they had acted last year and raided the B12 it would probably have been KSU, ISU and maybe Baylor and BYU in this boat. The ACC schools are positioning the league so that when their top 4 schools with options leave they don't end up pieced to the P12 or on the OSU/WSU scrap heap. Probably worse for the B12 who would have like to position as the clear #3 league.
 
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This is all temporary.

When a group of big money guys, private equity, hedge fund types get enough money together, they're going to set up a couple of billion dollar enterprise, pick apart the Big Ten, SEC, ACC, and whomever else they deem desirable, break away from the NCAA, and form an NFL lite. Everybody else will go back to more normal, regional leagues.

Kinda can't wait for Northwestern, Purdue, Iowa, Indiana, Illinois, even Michigan State and Nebraska to kick and scream and threaten lawsuits only to realize that they were doing the same thing to other conferences this whole time.
 
Alfred91 said:
This is all temporary.

When a group of big money guys, private equity, hedge fund types get enough money together, they're going to set up a couple of billion dollar enterprise, pick apart the Big Ten, SEC, ACC, and whomever else they deem desirable, break away from the NCAA, and form an NFL lite. Everybody else will go back to more normal, regional leagues.

Kinda can't wait for Northwestern, Purdue, Iowa, Indiana, Illinois, even Michigan State and Nebraska to kick and scream and threaten lawsuits only to realize that they were doing the same thing to other conferences this whole time.
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Iowa, MSU and Nebraska will always be included in any NFL-lite league
 
Oregon State just financed a bond for over $160M in football stadium improvements. Got to think that mobilization of that assumed Oregon, Washington, USC and UCLA visiting. Math might change a bit with swapping that for the likes of Wyoming and New Mexico.
 
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