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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

BuffsNYC said:
:ROFLMAO:

I guarantee you that Stanford and Cal snobs do not overrate their football teams. They barely know they exist.
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I see your point, but the Pac-12 presidents thought that they were entitled to a 50 million dollar per school TV deal, and turned down a 30 million dollar deal.

It is fair to assume that the Stanford and Cal snobs were part of that process.
 
Agent Dave Kujan said:
I see your point, but the Pac-12 presidents thought that they were entitled to a 50 million dollar per school TV deal, and turned down a 30 million dollar deal.

It is fair to assume that the Stanford and Cal snobs were part of that process.
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So… 12 people from across the current P12 footprint now are represented solely by the attitude of two particular schools? Right
 
manhattanbuff said:
So… 12 people from across the current P12 footprint now are represented solely by the attitude of two particular schools? Right
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The original point is that the leadership at the SV schools and the leadership at the Texas schools would not have gotten along if Texas would have joined the Pac-12. I don’t see how anyone can feel differently.

But I’ll let you have the last word, I know that is really important to you.
 
Agent Dave Kujan said:
The original point is that the leadership at the SV schools and the leadership at the Texas schools would not have gotten along if Texas would have joined the Pac-12. I don’t see how anyone can feel differently.

But I’ll let you have the last word, I know that is really important to you.
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LOL. You’ve changed your point so many times now that there’s no need for me to get the last word. You just look worse after each post because you try to shoehorn your “snob” agenda as if you’re a proletarian.

Texas’ academic leadership is often at odds with Texas snobs ideologically. The problem is that the leadership has to deal with the Texas snobs because the snobs pay the bills.
 
manhattanbuff said:
LOL. You’ve changed your point so many times now that there’s no need for me to get the last word. You just look worse after each post because you try to shoehorn your “snob” agenda as if you’re a proletarian.

Texas’ academic leadership is often at odds with Texas snobs ideologically. The problem is that the leadership has to deal with the Texas snobs because the snobs pay the bills.
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Your right. Have a great day!
 
Buffnik said:
Remember the program boosters in Friday Night Lights? The "He's a big n, he won't break" scene when they wanted the HC to play the star RB on defense? These are the folks you are referring to - at least a significant portion of them are like that.
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Right on the money. I've unfortunately seen it first hand playing there.
 
Agent Dave Kujan said:
Kinda makes me want to be a communist.
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85alum said:
Interesting article on ESPN and media bundling. Will be interesting to see how this plays out in future conference media deals:
https://www.outkick.com/espn-charter-cable-bundle-sports/
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Been watching that. Charter is supposedly $2.2B a year to $DIS for its channel bundle that includes ESPN. CEO Bob Eiger has said he knows CableTV is dying and plans to aggressively keep increasing carriage fees to hold revenue levels in the interim. Once its dead he’ll move everything to ESPN+ and raise the prices and batten down the hatches. I think hes just going to end killing his rev stream.
 
MiamiBuffs said:
Been watching that. Charter is supposedly $2.2B a year to $DIS for its channel bundle that includes ESPN. CEO Bob Eiger has said he knows CableTV is dying and plans to aggressively keep increasing carriage fees to hold revenue levels in the interim. Once its dead he’ll move everything to ESPN+ and raise the prices and batten down the hatches. I think hes just going to end killing his rev stream.
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I'm a Spectrum cable and internet customer. It's been obvious for a while that they know cable is dying. They aggressively market their wireless phone and ISP businesses. I'd have cut the cable years ago were it not for the P12 network--so I guess it will be end of winter that I do it. As I understand it, Charter/Spectrum presently objects to Disney forcing them to buy all their ****ty channels along with ESPN more than the ESPN carriage rate. I'm very interested to see who blinks here--actually, I mean it will be interesting to see if Disney blinks.
 
BuffsNYC said:
I'm a Spectrum cable and internet customer. It's been obvious for a while that they know cable is dying. They aggressively market their wireless phone and ISP businesses. I'd have cut the cable years ago were it not for the P12 network--so I guess it will be end of winter that I do it. As I understand it, Charter/Spectrum presently objects to Disney forcing them to buy all their ****ty channels along with ESPN more than the ESPN carriage rate. I'm very interested to see who blinks here--actually, I mean it will be interesting to see if Disney blinks.
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Charter has some gigantic markets in their portfolio. Charter and I think a lot of cable would love to exit the TV business and focus on ISP business. Margins are likely a butt load better since they dont have to pay carriage fees as a middle man.

Disney is ****ed imho. They pay multiple billions per year in rights obligations. Not enough people will sign up to ESPN+ to cover that. I doubt they file BK but watch for ESPN to be sold for a song to someone with deep pockets. Eiger cant hold back shareholders as parks over perform and that money then subsidizes TV.
 
MiamiBuffs said:
Charter has some gigantic markets in their portfolio. Disney is ****ed imho. Charter and I think a lot of cable would love to exit the TV business and focus on ISP business. Margins are likely a butt load better since they dont have to pay carriage fees as a middle man.
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Yep, it's a fascinating fight over the dwindling pie that is the cable business. Both Disney and the cable companies know the business is dying, but both are trying to squeeze all the profit out of it that they can. It seems obvious that Charter/Spectrum is either going to get what they want from Disney for the next few years or they are just going to exit the cable TV business. Several smaller cable companies have already done so and negotiated some nominal discount for their customers to receive youtubeTV.
 
Just read that long article.

Charter's business is now pretty much its broadband business and they are able to tell ESPN to go screw themselves. 15 million customers are left to decide if they want to continue watching ESPN on YouTube TV or Sling TV or whoever carries ESPN.

I am unable to shed a tiny drop of tear because ESPN has played a big part in the realignment chaos.

I guess Apple will buy ESPN sooner than later and I will subscribe to ESPN whenever I want to.
 
PAC MAN said:
Just read that long article.

Charter's business is now pretty much its broadband business and they are able to tell ESPN to go screw themselves. 15 million customers are left to decide if they want to continue watching ESPN on YouTube TV or Sling TV or whoever carries ESPN.

I am unable to shed a tiny drop of tear because ESPN has played a big part in the realignment chaos.

I guess Apple will buy ESPN sooner than later and I will subscribe to ESPN whenever I want to.
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Yes but, it won't be 15 million customers who sign up for another service to watch ESPN. It will be a lot less than that, possibly a very small amount will sign up. Many just are not going to care as they are not sports fans and can live without ESPN.

That is why this is a much bigger problem for ESPN than it is for charter. Charter can offer a $15 credit for anyone calling to complain, while ESPN loses 10s of millions per month on all those carriage fees from non ESPN watchers.
 
jaybird said:
Yes but, it won't be 15 million customers who sign up for another service to watch ESPN. It will be a lot less than that, possibly a very small amount will sign up. Many just are not going to care as they are not sports fans and can live without ESPN.

That is why this is a much bigger problem for ESPN than it is for charter. Charter can offer a $15 credit for anyone calling to complain, while ESPN loses 10s of millions per month on all those carriage fees from non ESPN watchers.
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True and who is going to shed tears for ESPN? Not me.
 
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