The Atlantic-Pacific Coast Conference won’t stand such shenanigans!
Build the biggest and best counterconference to the ACC and B1G in order to dominate the Basketball world first and foremost, and even possibly take over the basketball tournament. Then work really hard to get as close on Football as possibleI absolutely believe this.
Pac2/MWC/Big12/ACC merger incoming
Wild times.
I'd rather have the best ACC schools than putting us back into the PAC minus Oregon and Washington in some crazy legally binding/revenue sharing alliance. I've embraced the Natty Ice and cheered the wine and cheese being taken to the dump. Let's not go digging through the refuse to get it back.
Paul Finebaum, for what it’s worth, says Miami is a take by the SEC, and FSU and Clemson would be a pass. Lots of varying opinions out there.Would the SEC really pass on Miami? I guess FSU and Clemson are locks. Wonder who else they’d take to get to 20 but it’s about time Clemson joins the SEC as I constantly catch myself thinking they’re already a SEC team.
1. BIG and the SEC,
Miami hasn't been the powerhouse they once were for decades. Small private school without the historical success of Duke, small alumni base, no fan support, and located in a state the SEC already owns.Would the SEC really pass on Miami? I guess FSU and Clemson are locks. Wonder who else they’d take to get to 20 but it’s about time Clemson joins the SEC as I constantly catch myself thinking they’re already a SEC team.
there's some smart people at those schools.
Those smart people were completely in the dark about what was happening in their own conference and you think they have some special insight into what’s going on in the ACC?there's some smart people at those schools.
I really want to believe that Cal and Stanford have knowledge that ND is going to put out and join the ACC as a full member to restore a 3rd power conference.
first, I said "I want to believe". that's very different than "I think that". Let's show each mutual respect by staying away from straw man arguments.Those smart people were completely in the dark about what was happening in their own conference and you think they have some special insight into what’s going on in the ACC?
"keep your friends close and your enemies closer". Kevin Warren was following Sun Tzu's strategy -- to the point that Yormark and Kliavkoff didn't even realize they were his enemies.Remember how the Big Ten, Pac-12, and ACC were under an umbrella right up until the point where the Big Ten hammer ****ed us in the ass?
Just say no to umbrellas.
I want to believe Margot Robbie thinks I’m hot. It’s about as realistic as Stanford and Cal having some kind of inside info on the future of the ACC.first, I said "I want to believe". that's very different than "I think that". Let's show each mutual respect by staying away from straw man arguments.
second, I think it's plausible - even likely - that "everyone" was taken by surprise by the LA schools move, including those two (CU apparently was, right?). I also think it's likely that before committing to join a new conference with no near-term revenue, they had some confidence that the ACC was the best path forward for them. If Stanford and Cal didn't have reason to believe an ACC move was the best option, they would've stayed with the Pac-2 and worked on a merger with MWC.
and I haven't had any new insight suggesting there's another path to survival for the ACC beyond ND joining.
I honestly and sincerely disagree completely. I think it's completely realistic that after being burned by their membership in the Pac that Stanford and Cal gained a lot of understanding of their likely and potential future outcomes when making a conference choice. We're talking about entities doing business in the 100's of millions of dollars here, not a sexual fantasy.I want to believe Margot Robbie thinks I’m hot. It’s about as realistic as Stanford and Cal having some kind of inside info on the future of the ACC.
Or, and hear me out, Stanford and Cal landed in the only place that would take them, and they had to pay for the privilege.I honestly and sincerely disagree completely. I think it's completely realistic that after being burned by their membership in the Pac that Stanford and Cal gained a lot of understanding of their likely and potential future outcomes when making a conference choice. We're talking about entities doing business in the 100's of millions of dollars here, not a sexual fantasy.
Come on. I don't believe for a second that the MWC wouldn't have taken Stanford and Cal -- without the financial penalty that the ACC required -- and I really doubt you believe it either.Or, and hear me out, Stanford and Cal landed in the only place that would take them, and they had to pay for the privilege.
I want to believe Margot Robbie thinks I’m hot. It’s about as realistic as Stanford and Cal having some kind of inside info on the future of the ACC.
Come on. I don't believe for a second that the MWC wouldn't have taken Stanford and Cal -- without the financial penalty that the ACC required -- and I really doubt you believe it either.
if Stanford and Cal really thought their futures in either the ACC or MWC were equivalent, they wouldn't have agreed to give up near term revenue to the current ACC members.
Wait. You know her? Can you introduce me?Fear and rumor rule college football much more than well thought out strategy. Ultimately none of it matters until ESPN and Fox are ready to take the next step. Doesn’t seem likely to happen right now. At least that’s what I’m hearing from Margot Robbie