Robert Sorell
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I just hope Chip Kelly gets what he wished for.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Oregon State and Washington State are officially G5 Teams, full-stop
Stocking up on 3* players only is not gonna cut it
Stocking up on 3* players only is not gonna cut it
That's pretty much what they have done for years as P5 schools.
It will be good enough for the teams they’ll be playing against
BerkeleyBuff
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That's seriously what they've always done
Big Jim
WTF?
Yeah, but they are top 2 in their conference.
The Big10 has more than one partner. They likely do this to keep Fox paying with the threat of replacement. Watch CBS after losing SEC. And competition has the effect of getting everyone to bid against each other.
UF is the hardest state school to get into in Florida. FSU is easier and also probably has far more alums around the state helping to capture the big TV markets. Thats a good add for the Big10 who want to keep the TV gods happy.
They could have left FSU out as revenge. But I prefer the ESecPN narrative.
CFP revenue and the Rose Bowl"hundreds of millions of dollars coming into the conference in future years"
Oregon State, Washington State agree to revenue distribution deal with 10 departing Pac-12 schools
Oregon State and Washington State say they have reached an agreement with 10 departing Pac-12 schools on revenue distribution for 2023-24 that puts an end to a legal battle sparked by conference realignment.
www.kunc.org
I’m curious if CFP and Rose Bowl will honor those agreements.CFP revenue and the Rose Bowl
Oregon State, Washington State agree to revenue distribution deal with 10 departing Pac-12 schools
Oregon State and Washington State say they have reached an agreement with 10 departing Pac-12 schools on revenue distribution for 2023-24 that puts an end to a legal battle sparked by conference realignment.
I’m guessing they will want to make changes since the agreements were originally based on PAC 12 as it was.
ahoelsken
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I don't give a **** about their recruiting.
ahoelsken
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Can the Pac 12 even lay claim to the Rose Bowl after this year? All those games are CFP games with the 12 team playoff.
My point was rebuilding the PAC with any intention of being a P5 conference is just not possible.
They both know who they are. They both should dominate their level but recruiting will take an even bigger hit
ahoelsken
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Oh I already knew that wasn't happening.
I'm sure everyone knew that but OSU & WSU recruiting at that level going forward really is on par for them.
So, that plays into the “Millions of Dollars” in the CFP future. They have lost coaches and talent and cannot replace it. There needs to be a 64 team Premier Division and a 48 team Championship Division where OSU and WSU can succeed. Makes the SMU to the ACC such a dirty money grubbing move.
We’ll find our if they try not to pay and end up in court.
Robert Sorell
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My ideal system falls squarely into the "Ain't Happening" category.
64 teams in Tier I, in 4 geographical conferences of 16 teams (8 teams x 2 divisions per conf.).
Same geographic alignment for the 60-75 other schools that want to be FBS, in tier II.
Tier I schedule = 7 division games + 2 more conference games. No more than 2 tier II opponents, non conference games used to fill rivalry/regional matchups.
Tier I, win your division and autobid to playoff, no conference champ games, conferences just there to facilitate regional matchups. 16 team playoff, bids by record, tie breakers on typical H2H, common opponent, etc hierarchy, occasionally end up needing a BCS forumula to tiebreak seeds.
Tier II has conference champ games between division champs. Tier II conference Champs are promoted. Bottom conference record in Tier I are relegated, if there's a tie either H2H breaks tie, or a relegation game is scheduled.
Outside of 16 team playoff and tier II CCGs, there are a few bowl games that can pick from winning teams in both tiers.
Lost me at relegation. Honestly an awful idea at this level. I have no idea why that keeps getting brought up as some kind of worthy goal.
How is SMU going to the ACC a dirty money grabbing move when SMU won’t be getting TV $$$ from the ACC for about a decade?
I have a theory that watching soccer causes cognitive impairment.
ahoelsken
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I think you have a point, but I think your anger is aimed at the wrong people. I don't fault the ACC for adding the Bay Area schools and SMU. They added the most attractive schools they could and hoped it would be enough to hold them together. It probably isn't going to work, but whatever.
I don't even blame Texas for this-they joined a league with a number of schools in their part of the country. There's A&M. They have history with Arkansas going back to the SWC. Missouri was a former conference mate. LSU isn't far.
If you want to blame people for this, you need to blame the Pac 12 and Big 10. The Pac 12 had several opportunities to avoid dying as a functional conference. They could have raided the Big 12 three different times (which would have killed that league), and they chose not to. I tried to tell you all on that. They screwed up their TV negotiations time after time. CU had no other choice but to do what they did in July. The Big 10 has done nothing but chase money. The four Pac schools who are going over there are likely going to become what Nebraska now is. I don't believe there is a ton of difference between USC and Nebraska right now. Riley had all that offensive talent.....and went 7-5 with it because they couldn't stop anyone.
SMU bought its way into P5, which is a private money-printing machine that has no rules and never has
OSU and WSU have been investing and working hard to be good P5 conference member
I would not likely have SMU in a league of 64, but would possibly have OSU and WSU
Permanent damage is being inflicted on OSU and WSU, and I know many of you have said, that is what it is and the rest of the PAC wanted it that way, but a 64-team league would not have regional or local bias or shenanigans, rather it is more like World Sports Clubs where if you have it and can support it, that is it.
Be cool to have a 64-Team league and each team pays a $1 Million Dollar Championship buy-in and the winner takes it all
It is for football. It cant work in a recruiting transfer environment.
But without relegation you cant shake off the Vanderbilts and others there just to cash the TV check. The star programs in these big conferences (FSU) are already learning that the mediocre programs can vote to add more mediocre programs like Cal and Stanford despite the stars protest.
I think there's a decent possibility of this.