This is all bull****. Just take the top 14 or 12 ranked teams and go. No auto bids. **** that ****
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Let the chips fall and **** these pussy power players. Top 12-14 or whatever the number is. So tired of this **** or just expand and make it NFL style. AFC (SEC) vs NFC (Big1G) and take it to 4 fusions and have playoffs like the NFL.
Kind of sad to write the above. I know where we are headed and it is not what has made it fun.
Kind of sad to write the above. I know where we are headed and it is not what has made it fun.
No roster spots will be eliminated but schools could move to a club level status and that is non-scholarship football with no cap on how many seasons anyone can play. My D3 school did that and even played against the club football team from U of North Carolina instead of playing at the D3 level like they currently are at. It’s almost like a D4 football classification but not under the NCAA. I’m sure the SEC and B1G schools have a similar arrangement for anyone not on the 105 player roster.
But those club level team players could have NIL deals and boosters & media deals would fund the coaching staffs & ops staff and they might even be no longer under Title IX laws. That could weaken the case for lawsuits and antitrust to a degree where it could take years to resolve which could be too late when that happens.
Like I told Nik, the clues of how realignment could unfold are likely there in the lower divisions. If you have an extremely talented football player who happens to be a very good student who could receive academic scholarships from the school, you could give a D3 player a “full ride” scholarship if not cover most of their school expenses. I would not be surprised if D2 schools do the same thing and also D1 non scholarship football teams in the FCS ranks.
If those D3, D2, and FCS schools could come up with creative ways to skirt NCAA rules, just think of how creative those B1G & SEC schools could get in this case especially when their resources far outpace those D3, D2, and FCS schools. I’m sure there are other avenues that those schools could take besides what I laid out.
If you are waiting for a superhero lawyer or legislator to “save” CFB, you are likely in fantasy land and better off living in the old days of CFB via video game CFB.
Robert Sorell
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@PAC MAN posted the Nubs schedule in another thread, and they're missing Michigan, Penn St., and Oregon this year.
With these ridiculously oversized conferences, we're going to end up with some real BS results where getting a lucky schedule is what gets an SEC or B1G team that 2nd or 3rd autobid. It surely won't be the Fuskers this year, but maybe a team like Wisconsin gets a schedule with only Penn St. and USC at home as tough B1G opponents one year and they go 11-1 when they'd have been like 9-3 playing a Big XII schedule.
Give us 8 conferences x 8 teams each. Play a 7 game round robin with 5 non conference matchups. 8 autobids and 8 at large.
Obviously that will never work because the big kids on the block have to get an oversized share of the pie.
It'd be great if the powers that be at Texas stepped up and said, "We had a great situation in the Big XII, and the conference was close to being on even footing with the SEC about 20 years ago, but we demanded a really unequal distribution and accidentally, slowly killed the structure that we were thriving in, maybe y'all should think about a more equitable distribution?"
With these ridiculously oversized conferences, we're going to end up with some real BS results where getting a lucky schedule is what gets an SEC or B1G team that 2nd or 3rd autobid. It surely won't be the Fuskers this year, but maybe a team like Wisconsin gets a schedule with only Penn St. and USC at home as tough B1G opponents one year and they go 11-1 when they'd have been like 9-3 playing a Big XII schedule.
Give us 8 conferences x 8 teams each. Play a 7 game round robin with 5 non conference matchups. 8 autobids and 8 at large.
Obviously that will never work because the big kids on the block have to get an oversized share of the pie.
It'd be great if the powers that be at Texas stepped up and said, "We had a great situation in the Big XII, and the conference was close to being on even footing with the SEC about 20 years ago, but we demanded a really unequal distribution and accidentally, slowly killed the structure that we were thriving in, maybe y'all should think about a more equitable distribution?"
When I say roster spot, I mean Paid Roster spot, not a scholarship at a lower division school
Has anyone seen an article about a CFB players union and what they want. The bottom of CU’s roster has scholarship players with no NIL or additional pay.
The path this is taking is amazing with no player input, not a lot of real fan input from the outside programs that are in limbo, or from coaches that are leaving CFB cause there is dirty chaos.
The networks, commissioners, and power brokers are throwing stuff out and driving the bus.
Any other options besides mine are fine, bit Sneetches on the beaches assigning stars and everyone taking it in the ass is so sad.
Less teams will be less fans
Conferences are not needed when programs can stand on their own two feet.
The CFA was ruled illegal, but only because of greed
All the programs need to get back together and figure it out. The CFP has officially stated inequality and nobody should go for that
'Unheard of': Rivals decry SEC, Big Ten auto byes
The College Football Playoff hasn't unveiled its first 12-team field yet, but discussions on a 14-team field beginning in 2026 are already raising eyebrows among Big 12 and ACC coaches.
Sneetches on the Beaches! I love it!
Tell me you are Gen X without telling me you are Gen X.
MCskid
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What makes the basketball tourney the most exciting tournament? It ain’t the Kansas’s, Duke’s or UNC’s of the world, it’s the little podunk schools that no one’s ever heard of that make it to the final 4(and one day one of them is gonna win it all). CFB playoff’s could be every bit as exciting,16 teams with the P4/G5 conference champs all getting an automatic bid. Makes the regular season super exciting and still leaves 7 bids for the highest ranked teams. But seeing as the SEC/B10 are hell bent on destroying CFB, will never happen.
Realistically what is going to benefit the majority of the roster who’s days playing football will end with college? Getting some cash for 4 or 5 years in some new structure that de-emphasizes the academic part of student athlete, or the current structure where they should get a degree? Even at P5 schools, most of the guys will have to get a job when they are done playing.
I still want a clean path to a fully paid degree, and all 4 years of college paid without a doubt
Those that are in it for Football only, though can focus on classes or a specific educational program that make them better at managing their careers, and those that take a little longer playing football and do or do not go pro will still get a paid education. Everything is possible and on the table.
Born 1972 and we had every single book, and Sneetches is the ultimate have or have not, take or give, and more about working together.
Loved it and we ended up giving most of the books in pristine condition after our kids grew to a young man that I coached in youth soccer and his wife when they had their kid.
Agreed. But its already too late now.
Were three fourths of the way to cementing who the haves are and culling the have nots. We have an NCAA that lacks the actual legal authority to govern anymore and politicians and political forces, all from the Haves side of the ledger, that have NO interest in seeing anything egalitarian while there is money to be had. In the process a storied conference was erased and another one had its last two best programs ripped clean. The only fourth left to go is eviscerating the last best properties from the ACC and setting up Notre Dame.
We should be so lucky. The direction we are headed isn’t exactly NFL lite.
yep, the nfl is a socialist's dream. college football is not.
Big Jim
WTF?
A bunch of billionaires running an exclusive club doesn’t sound very socialist to me, but ok.
Profit sharing, pooled media rights, worst team gets the best draft picks, salary caps, wage scales, restricted player movement, non guaranteed salaries/contracts, etc.
Big Jim
WTF?
Well, except for Mike Brown apparently. He only comes in at 925mm.
Big Jim
WTF?
That isn't socialism, it is an oligopoly.
If you look at the NFL as one business, not 32, it’s far from socialist.
Actually sounds very much like a socialist country. Now take me to my dacha, prole.
Yes there are levels to it, but they operate the league as close to a socialistic structure as possible
unions, collective bargaining ... its essentially everything corporate america despises
and i think the reason the nfl can be seen as one business is that the 32 primary stakeholders primarily operate as a collective and have a mutual understanding that everyone will be better off if resources are shared and pooled together. in college, that isnt even the case within the conferences as i think recent history has shown that they all primarily do what they think is better for them and them only.
One business - as you point out the NFL essentially is- is acting in its self interest. So, not socialist. Look at the NFL as 32 branches of one company. The company sets the rules that benefit the company. Some branches might not do as well as others, but they all understand their place in the grand scheme of things.
But essentially we agree in that the college game is leaderless, fragmented, and eating itself alive. The college game could learn a lot from the NFL model.