I think this is accurate. RG cares, his boss does not. Saliman has been a pretty visible supporter, so maybe that will trickle down.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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He links this article that delivers this nice little nut shot:
**** me.
https://frankthetank.org/2018/05/18...en-graduates-live-and-conference-realignment/
I just received a like from @Bread on page 8 of this thread. Let us know when you catch up!
I'm on my way assholes. But maybe slow it down a bit. I swear whenever I finish a page, another one is added to the end.
Edit: Page 26, TSheck
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The Illuminati?
What else is the voice/face of CFB for the network that just forced further consolidation supposed to say?
What does that article being 6 years old have to do with anything? I was pointing out the numbers from the one good season CU has had in 20 years
241Volcanos
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If Buffs just put together a few 7-5/8-4 seasons in a row, the Big10 probably scoops them up next round of expansion.
I don’t think there was an issue with west coast kids not coming to CU when CU was in the Big 12 and Big 8…
On field success is a very minor consideration in these things. Possibly not any consideration at all.
Agree. The whole notion is preposterous. Boulder has always been a choice destination for California, and it never had anything to do with football.
Well, that's a relief.
I also do not agree, and don't understand how all of this increases any fan's enthusiasm for the sport.
In all of this conference realignment, there is no discussion of paying players by the Universities. The players continue to be viewed as financial assets which do not deserve any consideration of the huge sums of money being bandied about. The Universities claim poverty when the idea of paying players is ever raised: there's no way we could afford to pay players, that would cost us X more than we have. Ok. If you can't pay the players and put the product on the field, shouldn't that be part of the financial discussion about being paid to put the product on the field?
Not every player will get NIL money--none of which comes from the Universities, and all which is entirely separate from the pool of money being discussed in all of these conference moves. College Football is not (and should not be) an "amateur" sport (note: it kills me that what Kavanaugh writes constitutes any form of "law" in this country, but there it is, and it was a 9-0 decision):
"The NCAA's business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America," Justice Kavanaugh wrote--concurring--in Alston. "It is highly questionable whether the NCAA and its member colleges can justify not paying student athletes a fair share of the revenues." Yes, the assertion is clearly dicta, but the situation is so clear even the rabidly pro-business side of the Court expresses it.
As much as everyone gives the NCAA a hard time (very rightfully so), the Universities are also truly greedy bastards in all of this. I would be far more interested in conference realignment if it meant players were going to get any share of those revenues. This is all just moving money around among business entities that aren't on the field, taking the physical damage, and dealing with the risks of long-term injury and impairment.
All of which makes me less enthusiastic about the results of all of this: the picking and choosing of long-term winners on the football field by the movement of money between greedy non-players off the field.
Just one fan's thoughts in the midst of the maelstrom of perspectives.
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I’m now in the mindset go with which conference pays the most. I feel the odds of getting burned are higher in the PAC-12 though.
In 2030s when this all happens again maybe B1G says yes. Likely if the Denver market continues to grow. Would be awesome if we had a better product on the field by then. Hopes are low on that.
Jay Bilas has no issues critiquing the NCAA.
Jay Bilas is an employee of ESPN, not the NCAA
Joel Klatt is an employee of Fox, not the NCAA.
CU has always been a destination for Cali kids, whether we were in the Big 8, Big 12 or Pac 12. As long as the UC system continues to be super selective, CU will get the spillover.
Nobody is asking for Klatt to criticize the NCAA. They are asking him to criticize his employer who is directing these moves within the CFB landscape
And you are forgetting that Rutgers was added entirely so that they could get the Big 10 Network on the in-network packages in the largest TV market.
Who's asking him to criticize his employer? He simply gave his opinion on the fallout of Conference realignment and the potential impact to college football as a whole.
Are you dense? People are criticizing Klatt's recent opinion that the moves his employer made will ultimately be good for college football. Again, what is he supposed to say publicly, that Fox orchestrating USC and UCLA to the B1G is awful for CFB and it's eventually going to create a sterile postseason and kill the sport? That would be criticizing his employer.
buffinbama
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So did our Conference USA invite come.
BerkeleyBuff
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Realignment talk got errbody tense up in here
Bingo. I think it could be argued that ASU and or CU are also more valuable of a property than anything in the Big12.
CU has three things on its side. Excellent geography relative to the rest of the Pac12 vis a vis proximity to the Big12, Big10, and even the ACC, or SEC. CU has a fast growing tech oriented metropolitan area thats a top20 TV market. More higher ed capacity is not being built in the state so Colorado will export a large number of students into someone elses conference. CU is an AAU member and as sports properties go CU may be tarnished today but has a pretty good history. From that perspective Im not as worried that we cant find a new home if it comes to it.
With respect to the ACC alliance/merger talk I have some doubts about a full merger as that seems like a reach.
Disney is ESPN's parent and the stock is way down on the year and investors might not be in the mood for more spending. While they have the cash and capacity to stitch the two conferences together they've already spent pretty big on the SEC as well as acquiring La Liga, Serie A, and Bundesliga content.
That said linear TV is a big money maker for ESPN so it is possible. That being said a merger creates a really big conference spread of a giant area and those have failed in the past. The idea of something more like an alliance where the ACC and PAC both belong to ESPN and play 2 of their 3 OOC games against each other sounds like fun. Especially if ESPN had some input on scheduling; Viewers might tune in to see Miami play Oregon due to the intrigue around Manny Cristobal saga.
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He could very easily say something generic along the lines of conference realignment being bad for college football and leave it at that. He's entitled to his opinion and it's possible that he does believe adding powerhouse programs to better conferences is better for CFB as a whole.
Selfishly I wish UCLA and USC would've stayed in the PAC 12. Selfishly I wish a larger, better conference would invite Colorado. I think we all do. But that isn't reality, and reality is that nobody east of the Colorado border cares to watch any of the PAC12 teams outside of USC and maybe Oregon. USC playing Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, etc. is much more intriguing than watching USC vs. Arizona on PAC12 after dark.
I am. He's choosing the easy route and throwing his school under the bus. He doesn't have to shred into fox but he could say he's not a fan of the TV contract model because it destroys historic rivalries like CU-NU-OU. If he or his employer is thinking people will watch USC tOSU just BC they're brand names they're sorely mistaken
Oregon-ASU top Pac-12 conference game of season
Arizona State's upset of Oregon generated the highest ratings of the season for an intra-conference Pac-12 game. Meanwhile, USC-UCLA hit a multi-year low.
www.sportsmediawatch.com